Flasher wrasse gasping

[Lps_lover12]

It’s a Mccoskers flasher in a 15G qt and it’s the only fish in there. I just dropped the salinity down to 1.012 two days ago due to having flukes that came from another flasher wrasse that died. The Mccoskers was swimming and eating just an hour and a half ago and I went to turn the light off and it’s laying on the bottom gasping, not breathing rapidly just very heavy. What could be the issue?

 

[fishguy242]

a short video possible ? #fishmedic

 

[vetteguy53081]

It’s a Mccoskers flasher in a 15G qt and it’s the only fish in there. I just dropped the salinity down to 1.012 two days ago due to having flukes that came from another flasher wrasse that died. The Mccoskers was swimming and eating just an hour and a half ago and I went to turn the light off and it’s laying on the bottom gasping, not breathing rapidly just very heavy. What could be the issue?

Hyposalinity best for parasites and not flukes however s 5 min freshwater dip will offer temporary relief and buy some time. Prazi pro treatment is most effective for flukes provided that it’s indeed flukes . The low salinity May be the issue. Also very ammonia and nitrate has not become elevated.
Gasping is generally a sign of low oxygen or gill irritation.
Some fluke signs would be yawning, flashing, darting, inflamed gills and darting and scratching against objects along with loss of appetite

 

[Lps_lover12]

a short video possible ? #fishmedic

Just went down to get one and it’s not doing this which looks a lot more normal. Not sure why its like this all of a sudden. Only been like 5 mins https://youtube.com/shorts/vu_oPAniI24?feature=share

 

[Lps_lover12]

Hyposalinity best for parasites and not flukes however s 5 min freshwater dip will offer temporary relief and buy some time. Prazi pro treatment is most effective for flukes provided that it’s indeed flukes . The low salinity May be the issue. Also very ammonia and nitrate has not become elevated.
Gasping is generally a sign of low oxygen or gill irritation.
Some fluke signs would be yawning, flashing, darting, inflamed gills and darting and scratching against objects along with loss of appetite

I did a freshwater dip on the other flasher that was in there and had flukes, I posted about it and jay Told me because of the type I had hyposalinty was best as their very hard to get rid of. Ammonia is at 0 I just went down to look and it seems to be better within only 5 mins. Here is a video https://youtube.com/shorts/vu_oPAniI24?feature=share

 

[vetteguy53081]

I did a freshwater dip on the other flasher that was in there and had flukes, I posted about it and jay Told me because of the type I had hyposalinty was best as their very hard to get rid of. Ammonia is at 0 I just went down to look and it seems to be better within only 5 mins. Here is a video https://youtube.com/shorts/vu_oPAniI24?feature=share

Breathing rate is not bad. If it’s neobendenia flukes- yes on hypo if you haven’t already, add oxygen with an air stone

 

[Lps_lover12]

Breathing rate is not bad. If it’s neobendenia flukes- yes on hypo if you haven’t already, add oxygen with an air stone

It was a lot worse before, not sure why. Jay said it looks like neobendenia flukes and to run at hypo for 35 days

 

[vetteguy53081]

It was a lot worse before, not sure why. Jay said it looks like neobendenia flukes and to run at hypo for 35 days

Likely because they are larger stubborn type that is rarely if ever treatable with prazi and stick to fish well and prolonged low salinity dislodges them and knocks them down

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Sorry - I just woke up. Hyposalinity is often the best treatment choice for flukes. However, it does not control Amyloodinium/velvet. That can cause rapid breathing and lethargy in fish, but in that case, the fish will not recover and start to do better.

Also, hypo is not without its own risks - one being that when first applied, all the flukes drop off at once, causing the fish to bleed out. However, you gave this fish a FW dip prior to the hypo? If so, the hypo would not have that affect, since the FW dip would have already caused that.

Could something have startled the wrasse, causing it to go into shock?

Jay

 

[Lps_lover12]

Sorry - I just woke up. Hyposalinity is often the best treatment choice for flukes. However, it does not control Amyloodinium/velvet. That can cause rapid breathing and lethargy in fish, but in that case, the fish will not recover and start to do better.

Also, hypo is not without its own risks - one being that when first applied, all the flukes drop off at once, causing the fish to bleed out. However, you gave this fish a FW dip prior to the hypo? If so, the hypo would not have that affect, since the FW dip would have already caused that.

Could something have startled the wrasse, causing it to go into shock?

Jay

I didn’t give this one a freshwater dip before the hypo so it could be that. Only thing that could have cause it to go into shock was maybe a flash from the tv or something. I’ll see how it looks today and hope it’s ok. I’ve had some very bad luck with wrasses

 

[merkmerk73]

Following because I just had a blue flasher go from completely healthy to gasping and dead in 48 hours, and honestly it was mostly within 24 hours.

 

[Lps_lover12]

Following because I just had a blue flasher go from completely healthy to gasping and dead in 48 hours, and honestly it was mostly within 24 hours.

My flasher is ok now, hasn’t done it since. I noticed that the closer it gets to my lights shutting off it goes and hides and acts really weird

 

[vetteguy53081]

My flasher is ok now, hasn’t done it since. I noticed that the closer it gets to my lights shutting off it goes and hides and acts really weird

These wrasses seem to have a body clock in which a certain hour in the evening they vanish and dive into sand or rocks. At daylight, they are back. Glad to hear of improvement

 

[Lps_lover12]

These wrasses seem to have a body clock in which a certain hour in the evening they vanish and dive into sand or rocks. At daylight, they are back. Glad to hear of improvement

This hobby continues to amaze me when I hear stuff like that

 

[MarineLunatic]

I think there is a bad batch of fish going around at the moment the amount of people that I have seen post this about wrasses in the last few weeks is unbelievable I bought fish from the lfs a few day ago and he was ok for the first half day then he started to look ill and stressed with heavy breathing and stuff the day after he had a few patches and then today one eye was cloudy and he looked really ill I managed to get him out and freshwater dip him with some medicine and when I put him back in the tank his eye had cleared and looks healthy and swimming freely until the last hour in which I has noticed some patches coming back so tomorrow I'm traveling 70 miles to a fish shop to collect prazipol to nuke the entire reef with them bare in mind in the 5 years I have been reefing I never lost a fish or had any pest other than some hair algae and aptasia which I got rid of

 

[Lps_lover12]

I think there is a bad batch of fish going around at the moment the amount of people that I have seen post this about wrasses in the last few weeks is unbelievable I bought fish from the lfs a few day ago and he was ok for the first half day then he started to look ill and stressed with heavy breathing and stuff the day after he had a few patches and then today one eye was cloudy and he looked really ill I managed to get him out and freshwater dip him with some medicine and when I put him back in the tank his eye had cleared and looks healthy and swimming freely until the last hour in which I has noticed some patches coming back so tomorrow I'm traveling 70 miles to a fish shop to collect prazipol to nuke the entire reef with them bare in mind in the 5 years I have been reefing I never lost a fish or had any pest other than some hair algae and aptasia which I got rid of

It’s a possibility for sure. The store that I get mine from is 4 hours away and I usually get them shipped but I’ve never had issues with them with any diseases, I’ve tried two other places and I’m always worried about it. The one time the fish came with flukes which made me go right back to my original place. You have to find the right store who cares and is knowledgeable for sure