Flashing always mean ich??

  • Thread starter Thread starter JOKER
  • Start date Start date
  • Tagged users None

JOKER

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 5, 2013
Messages
2,917
Reaction score
819
Location
Pulaski
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I added a convict tang to my display, and I saw it flash a few times within first 2 weeks . It has yet to flash or anything since. Do I need to go fallow now or give it a little while? this fish went through 30 day copper and 2 rounds of prazipro as well as other fish added. Thanks
 
I added a convict tang to my display, and I saw it flash a few times within first 2 weeks . It has yet to flash or anything since. Do I need to go fallow now or give it a little while? this fish went through 30 day copper and 2 rounds of prazipro as well as other fish added. Thanks
Flashing doesn't always mean ich. It can mean flukes, too. ;)

All of my fish went through copper and prazi and my Hippo tang still flashes on occasion. Haven't seen my convict do it yet. I believe my Hippo does it because of irritations from wedging itself in tight spots between rocks. My convict is more of an open water swimmer but if yours like the tight spots in rocks it could be a similar cause.
 
Flashing usually means parasite but not always necessary. I have a tang that usually flash to disturb the sand bed to search for food or sometimes to scratch an ich (not to be confused with the ich parasite), that is rare but i notice it every now and then. It might be that, or a parasite or disease slipped through QT. Observe it well for other symptoms and if flashing increased in frequency you migt want to go fallow just in case.

Best of luck
 
Depends on the frequency. If it's a regular occurrence (several times an hour or so), it's likely a parasite. If it happens infrequently, it's probably nothing. I've seen a couple of my fish flash on occasion (once or twice and that's it), and I know they are parasite free. Sometimes, fish just get an irritation.
 
Could be any number of things, with parasites being the most likely, as mentioned previously.
 
Thanks. The fish has yet to flash since, and I watch very often. He gets crazy when feeding time arrives. Paces back and forth, and up and down the tank waiting. The fish slept in the rocks the first few days so that may explain why it flashed. very personable fish after QT. Will eat nori out of my hand.
 
Bump.

I have a tang that flashes occasionally, I’ve dipped other fish and no flukes, fish is fat.
 
Bump.

I have a tang that flashes occasionally, I’ve dipped other fish and no flukes, fish is fat.
How occasionally? Once an hour isn’t an issue, but once a minute would be.
All but one species of fluke are too small to see in a dip without a microscope.
Jay
 
How occasionally? Once an hour isn’t an issue, but once a minute would be.
All but one species of fluke are too small to see in a dip without a microscope.
Jay
Jay,

Of the more or less 13 common flukes, is only one visible with the unaided eye?
 
Jay,

Of the more or less 13 common flukes, is only one visible with the unaided eye?

For monogeneans, the Capsalids, genus Neobenedenia/Benedenella are large enough to be be seen with the naked eye after a dip - they are 2 to 5mm. There are some really large flukes on elasmobranchs as well. Digeneans rarely are dislodged by FW dips (usually encysted). The rest of them, Gyrodactylids (livebearers) and Dactylgyrids (egg laying gill parasites) are soft bodied and < 2mm and are too small to be seen in FW dips. Same thing with turbellarians. What happens is that the FW turns them into tiny balls of snot, and you can't tell them from detritus without a scope (and then, not always with one). A loupe or strong hand lens might be enough to see the larger Gyrodactylids, but I've never tried that.

Somehow, the idea that you can always see monogeneans in FW dips has became firmly entrenched in the hobby. The result is, people do a FW dip, don't see anything and then think their fish are parasite-free. I'm trying to work against that incorrect information, but it is tough.

FW dips with no microscope can be used to diagnose moderate to advanced cases of Neobenedenia, but that's it.

FW dips can buy some time by lowering the parasite load.

I much prefer skin scrapes and gill clips, as the movement of the still-living monogeneans helps me see them. Obviously, I'm not not suggesting that be done routinely at home.


Jay
 
Thanks Jay. :)

Somehow, the idea that you can always see monogeneans in FW dips has became firmly entrenched in the hobby. The result is, people do a FW dip, don't see anything and then think their fish are parasite-free
Totally on board with this. Dip and if nothing is seen, then nothing exists. I'm frustrated by this notion.

If only the home aquarist could do what Dr. Noga shows/has done.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%
Back
Top