Fluke/inch treatment questions

[SueAubu]

One more question to make sure I understand correctly for the future of this tank. Once I take the fish out ALL I need to do is treat it like a COWLR tank (coral only.... Lol)? No treatment needed so long as the pests don't have fish hosts?? (Ok 2 questions, technically)

 

[MnFish1]

One more question to make sure I understand correctly for the future of this tank. Once I take the fish out ALL I need to do is treat it like a COWLR tank (coral only.... Lol)? No treatment needed so long as the pests don't have fish hosts?? (Ok 2 questions, technically)

Correct - just leave it fishless for 8 weeks - some say longer some shorter. I tend to longer

 

[SueAubu]

One LAST last question topic?? Ha ha
What are the odds that I've transmitted it to another tank through use of the water from the first to thaw the frozen cubes I fed tank 1 and then some other tanks? Or put a rock from tank 1 with a nem on it into another tank? Can you preventatively treat?

I'm still panicking, but the resigned to maybe losing these would-be rescues. (The folks had moved out and only stopped by to feed now and then...) And planning how to save the rest of the reef in the other tanks.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I'm not so worried about ich now. The clown that had spots yesterday doesn't, today, after the FW dip.

New question:
Can I Prazi and Ich-X at the same time? I've been through the stringy poop thing before in the FW tank... Ich-X isn't the full copper treatment, right?

Don't use Ich-X, it isn't reef safe and is of no real benefit for marine ich or flukes.

The video shows rapid breathing in all fish, and congested skin and cloudy eyes in the tangs. That shows there are at least two issues going on here - possible protozoans (rapid breathing) and flukes (cloudy skin and eyes). The mucus feces is another issue, and one that may or may not need treatment.

Your best option would be coppersafe and praziquantel in a stable treatment tank. However, that is a best-case scenario and requires that you have an operational biofilter in your treatment tank.

 

[SueAubu]

Don't use Ich-X, it isn't reef safe and is of no real benefit for marine ich or flukes.

The video shows rapid breathing in all fish, and congested skin and cloudy eyes in the tangs. That shows there are at least two issues going on here - possible protozoans (rapid breathing) and flukes (cloudy skin and eyes). The mucus feces is another issue, and one that may or may not need treatment.

Your best option would be coppersafe and praziquantel in a stable treatment tank. However, that is a best-case scenario and requires that you have an operational biofilter in your treatment tank.

Well nuts... Jay, I've been waiting for the final verdict from you... Was kind of hoping you'd tell them all they're wrong. *Sigh*

I planned on faking the bioload from a bottle, and treating what I could. The reality is I probably can't pull the all together in time to save them, isn't it?

Still gotta try!!

 

[MnFish1]

One LAST last question topic?? Ha ha
What are the odds that I've transmitted it to another tank through use of the water from the first to thaw the frozen cubes I fed tank 1 and then some other tanks? Or put a rock from tank 1 with a nem on it into another tank? Can you preventatively treat?

I'm still panicking, but the resigned to maybe losing these would-be rescues. (The folks had moved out and only stopped by to feed now and then...) And planning how to save the rest of the reef in the other tanks.

can you be more specific? I think you're saying you used water from one tank to thaw food for tank 2. (low risk). Putting rock from tank 1 with anemone to tank 2. no you can't preemptively treat - and its moderate-elevated risk.

 

[MnFish1]

Well nuts... Jay, I've been waiting for the final verdict from you... Was kind of hoping you'd tell them all they're wrong. *Sigh*

I planned on faking the bioload from a bottle, and treating what I could. The reality is I probably can't pull the all together in time to save them, isn't it?

Still gotta try!!

Sorry - its unclear what you mean - you can use bacteria in a bottle and lets say a sponge filter - to help start up a quarantine/hospital tank. And - depending on the sizes you would be able to put your fish in a QT tank. The inverts, and rock stay in your display tank - with no intervention (for 8 weeks)

 

[SueAubu]

can you be more specific? I think you're saying you used water from one tank to thaw food for tank 2. (low risk). Putting rock from tank 1 with anemone to tank 2. no you can't preemptively treat - and its moderate-elevated risk.

You understood me. I just got thinking about the things I may have used and/or moved between tanks. Overthinking now, I bet. I DID take a couple rocks from infected tank (been informed maybe a week) with nems on them

Sorry - its unclear what you mean - you can use bacteria in a bottle and lets say a sponge filter - to help start up a quarantine/hospital tank. And - depending on the sizes you would be able to put your fish in a QT tank. The inverts, and rock stay in your display tank - with no intervention (for 8 weeks)

Yes, that's what I meant. Exactly my plan, all those things.

 

[SueAubu]

There it is. The last best hope. Started with 6 clowns (3 pairs), harlequin tusk, scopius tang (who didn't survive the transfer), a snowflake blenny, and the blue tang.

The 5 clowns look ok, except maybe 1. A couple even pecked at food. The blue tang is the worst. Oh wait he's swimming in a straight line! One can hope....

Thanks all!!!

 

[SueAubu]

All of the fish were dead by the end of the next day... The big tank will sit fallow for the summer, but I'm probably not going to add fish to it, anyway.

When the copper gets here, all of the fish from the other tanks will be going into quarantine while we get the 500gal up and cycling. There's no way I'm going to put any of the above nasties into a tank that big and watch it crash. Not if I can help it.

 

[MnFish1]

All of the fish were dead by the end of the next day... The big tank will sit fallow for the summer, but I'm probably not going to add fish to it, anyway.

When the copper gets here, all of the fish from the other tanks will be going into quarantine while we get the 500gal up and cycling. There's no way I'm going to put any of the above nasties into a tank that big and watch it crash. Not if I can help it.

Sorry to hear