Flukes Or Something Else?

[flyfisher2]

Just checked again.

Ph a tad low - What test kits rae you using?

Just did this test now. You call it.
I’m color blind
Lol

 

[vetteguy53081]

Just checked again.

Just did this test now. You call it.
I’m color blind
Lol

I give PH 7.9 and acceptable

 

[flyfisher2]

I’ve tons of air being pumped through the system at this point.
And I changed 30 gallons of water this afternoon
Salinity floating between 1.008. And 1.009.

 

[flyfisher2]

I give PH 7.9 and acceptable

Thanks vette. Needed the younger eyes

 

[flyfisher2]

Fish going off feed during a treatment is serious and going in the wrong direction. Are you monitoring ammonia closely?
If it’s been 24 hours or more since you dosed Prazipro, you can do water changes.
I’ve never dosed Prazipro in brackish conditions but I use it in fresh and salt, so there should be no reason not to do it here, but I cannot explain the bad reaction you’ve had.
Jay

I did the 30 gallon change right at 72 hrs after Prazi dose. Prior to water change I had the skimmer running without the cup and regular water movement in the tank from powerheads. Maybe that wasn't sufficient oxygen? The fish weren't coming to the surface nor did I notice heavy breathing. I did see the fish become livelier and more interested in food immediately after the water change. It was a bit surprising to see the rapid improvement. Even the Lamark started picking at small pieces of food.

 

[Reef AquaCult]

Keep up the hypo and keep a close eye on things. Sounds to be improving

 

[flyfisher2]

Keep up the hypo and keep a close eye on things. Sounds to be improving

thanks for the help I'll keep you updated. Plan on dosing again next Sunday as per Jay's instructions to wait 10 days before dosing again.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I did the 30 gallon change right at 72 hrs after Prazi dose. Prior to water change I had the skimmer running without the cup and regular water movement in the tank from powerheads. Maybe that wasn't sufficient oxygen? The fish weren't coming to the surface nor did I notice heavy breathing. I did see the fish become livelier and more interested in food immediately after the water change. It was a bit surprising to see the rapid improvement. Even the Lamark started picking at small pieces of food.

The bubbles in the skimmer should have been sufficient aeration, but adding an air stone to the main tank next time wouldn't hurt. Also - double check your dosage....don't just dose based on the tank's rated volume. You also need to deduct for all that rock - perhaps 15%?

Jay

 

[flyfisher2]

The bubbles in the skimmer should have been sufficient aeration, but adding an air stone to the main tank next time wouldn't hurt. Also - double check your dosage....don't just dose based on the tank's rated volume. You also need to deduct for all that rock - perhaps 15%?

Jay

I've been trying to do that. Even calculated on the tanks inner dimensions vs External Width X Length X Height.
In this case a 150 (60X24X24) which is rated at 149.60 gallons in reality holds approx. 126 gallons. Did the same for sump= 26 actual gallons and deduct 15% of display for rocks so I come back at about 133 gallons if my numbers are correct.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I've been trying to do that. Even calculated on the tanks inner dimensions vs External Width X Length X Height.
In this case a 150 (60X24X24) which is rated at 149.60 gallons in reality holds approx. 126 gallons. Did the same for sump= 26 actual gallons and deduct 15% of display for rocks so I come back at about 133 gallons if my numbers are correct.

That's how I would calculate it, I got the same volume...

Jay

 

[flyfisher2]

Fish are all eating as prior to Prazi. They are also scratching as before. I'm going to do another water change tomorrow. Maintaining salinity at 1.009 I've feed Mysis regularly and I notice more itching during feeding. Coincidence?

 

[flyfisher2]

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Fish are all eating as prior to Prazi. They are also scratching as before. I'm going to do another water change tomorrow. Maintaining salinity at 1.009 I've feed Mysis regularly and I notice more itching during feeding. Coincidence?

I'm not sure what the correlation between scratching and feeding would be. I have seen fish get food caught in their teeth and they will scratch to dislodge that, but that isn't a common thing.

Jay

 

[flyfisher2]

I just gave the 150 it's second dose of Prazipro. I've maintained salinity between 1.008-1.009.
The fish seem to be taking it well and the tank isn't as cloudy as with the first dose.

In addition, I ended up dosing my display. My Blue Tang was doing the weird occasional rub thing and I assumed water got cross contaminated as the tanks are two feet apart. I was very hesitant in doing this as this tank is mostly sps. I noticed a chalice retract polyps almost immediately after applying the Prazipro but after that I noticed no further effect. The fish twitched and dashed a little but nothing crazy. Let's see what tomorrow looks like.

 

[flyfisher2]

24 hrs after 1st treatment on my display and second treatment in my 150.
Observations:
The tang gang is breathing lighter. Can’t say that I remember them having labored breathing but now I definitely see the gills moving less.
The fish are active and hungry!
No loss of appetite in this tank. If anything they are looking for more food.
Tank is clear.
Corals appear to be doing well. The ones which retracted polyps initially have since come back

The 150 seems okay…
The fish are eating well and the tank is not as cloudy as after the first treatment. Fish are still itching after 24 hrs.

 

[flyfisher2]

 

[flyfisher2]

Update:
48 hours after Second dose of Prazipro in 150
Tank is somewhat cloudy
Im still maintaining the1.008 -1.009 SG
The Scopas, Powder Brown, Copperband and Coral Beauty all have good appetite. The Lamarck is barely eating and lethargic. The 6 line Wrasse is in hiding.

The Prostar 200 display is crystal clear and the fish are just as active and hungry as ever.
Not seeing any noticeable effects on the corals as of yet.
No scratching or weird Tang behavior either.

 

[flyfisher2]

150 is cloudy. The Tangs, Copperband, and Coral beauty are eating. The lamarck isn't doing great. He's not liking the Prazi and haven't seen the Sixline wrasse in two days.

The Display is going like nothing ever happened. The corals appear fine and the fish are totally fine as well. This is gonna sound strange but the tangs are eating with more gusto now than prior to treatment. They've picked up a new thing. They're eating each others poop like its Frozen Mysis mixed with Nori!
Kinda gross to watch.

 

[flyfisher2]

Here's a twist.
I woke up this morning to find a dead Green Mandarin which was doing great up until today. Fish was eating Mysis and constantly picking. When I took it out I checked and it was NOT thin. I also observed a Mellanurus wrasse breathing heavily and covered in spots. Fish died this afternoon. In addition a Sailfin tang which was in this tank since August is covered in what I believe is velvet.
The wrasse and Mandarin came in mid October. I did not put them in the 150 with the Copperband, Scopas, Powder Brown,Lamark, because I was concerned about sensitivity to hypo and Prazipro.
Sorry for the long rant.
Could this have been and be Velvet all along?
My question is based on the resistance to hypo at 1.009 since Late October and Prazi. This coming Tuesday I'd be doing my third Prazi treatment. Fish are still itching.No signs of spots or cloudy eyes. If I raise salinity will I end up with full blown Velvet?
Can Velvet stay 'dormant' for that long?

 

[flyfisher2]