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My blue hippo tang has a foggy/glazed eye she just finished her ich treatment and was looking better until her left eye got all foggy. What should I do I’ve added melafix and tested water all seemes good. (Sorry about the coarline on acrylic)

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I've had plenty of one-eyed fish that ate just fine, so this one being off feed could be an important symptom. Is there other eye fine, or does it have some haze? How long have you had the fish? Have you ever given it a freshwater dip?

Jay
 
The other eye has a slight haze and I got it 3 weeks ago but I bought it with the tank so I don’t know how long it’s been in that tank. Also no too scared to do it
 
So - I'm worried that it could be flukes, and a FW dip would help you diagnose that. I agree, they are a bit tricky to do and hepatus tangs will just about look like they are dying when you dip them, but if it has Neobenedenia (eye flukes) the dip will tell you that. If you do decide to try a FW dip, there is some info about it at the top of this section, and here is an excerpt from my upcoming book about it:

Osmotic differential baths

Formalin is not the only irritant that can be used to dislodge parasites during a diagnostic bath. Osmotic differential baths (exposing a marine fish to freshwater, and vice versa) are also effective at loosening parasites. However, there is a greater possibility that the shape of the organism will be disrupted by osmotic pressure to such an extent that proper identification would be difficult. “Freshwater dips” are commonly used to dislodge parasites from the skin of marine fishes. To perform these dips, the fish is captured and placed in a dimly lit container of clean freshwater the same temperature as the aquarium system it came from. The dip container should be covered with a clear material so that the fish is kept from jumping out, yet can still be observed for overt signs of stress. Hold the fish in the freshwater for five minutes to seven minutes. If acute stress is seen, the dip may need to be terminated early. The idea is to dislodge the parasites, without unduly harming the fish. Many aquarists opt to use reverse osmosis water, and adjust the pH to match the aquarium, but this is simply not necessary if the pH of the freshwater is between 7.5 and 8.5. Some advocate to not aerate the water during the dip, but the water motion from air bubbles can help keep the fish active so that they can be better assessed for stress. Additionally, the air bubbles help dislodge some parasites during the dip process.



Some caveats:

  • Some fish will give extreme reactions to being dipped (hepatus tangs for example), as long as they were swimming well before the dip, it is best to ignore that behavior and continue for a full five minutes.
  • Moribund fish can be dipped, but understand that the acute stress from the dip may prove fatal. The dip water should still be checked for parasites in order to possibly help any remaining fish. Moribund would include any fish that was easy to capture or a fish with a respiration rate of 200+ BPM.
  • Choose the type of net wisely, some fish have spines that will become caught in the netting. Have a pair of scissors handy to cut the net if this happens.
  • Dropping a fish while moving it to and from the dip is common, take care. Some fish have venomous spines, so know that before trying to handle any fish.
  • Fish shaking their heads violently after capture is one cause of mechanical exophthalmos (popeye), so try to gently restrain them in the net while moving them.
 
So - I'm worried that it could be flukes, and a FW dip would help you diagnose that. I agree, they are a bit tricky to do and hepatus tangs will just about look like they are dying when you dip them, but if it has Neobenedenia (eye flukes) the dip will tell you that. If you do decide to try a FW dip, there is some info about it at the top of this section, and here is an excerpt from my upcoming book about it:

Osmotic differential baths

Formalin is not the only irritant that can be used to dislodge parasites during a diagnostic bath. Osmotic differential baths (exposing a marine fish to freshwater, and vice versa) are also effective at loosening parasites. However, there is a greater possibility that the shape of the organism will be disrupted by osmotic pressure to such an extent that proper identification would be difficult. “Freshwater dips” are commonly used to dislodge parasites from the skin of marine fishes. To perform these dips, the fish is captured and placed in a dimly lit container of clean freshwater the same temperature as the aquarium system it came from. The dip container should be covered with a clear material so that the fish is kept from jumping out, yet can still be observed for overt signs of stress. Hold the fish in the freshwater for five minutes to seven minutes. If acute stress is seen, the dip may need to be terminated early. The idea is to dislodge the parasites, without unduly harming the fish. Many aquarists opt to use reverse osmosis water, and adjust the pH to match the aquarium, but this is simply not necessary if the pH of the freshwater is between 7.5 and 8.5. Some advocate to not aerate the water during the dip, but the water motion from air bubbles can help keep the fish active so that they can be better assessed for stress. Additionally, the air bubbles help dislodge some parasites during the dip process.



Some caveats:

  • Some fish will give extreme reactions to being dipped (hepatus tangs for example), as long as they were swimming well before the dip, it is best to ignore that behavior and continue for a full five minutes.
  • Moribund fish can be dipped, but understand that the acute stress from the dip may prove fatal. The dip water should still be checked for parasites in order to possibly help any remaining fish. Moribund would include any fish that was easy to capture or a fish with a respiration rate of 200+ BPM.
  • Choose the type of net wisely, some fish have spines that will become caught in the netting. Have a pair of scissors handy to cut the net if this happens.
  • Dropping a fish while moving it to and from the dip is common, take care. Some fish have venomous spines, so know that before trying to handle any fish.
  • Fish shaking their heads violently after capture is one cause of mechanical exophthalmos (popeye), so try to gently restrain them in the net while moving them.
Thanks I may try it if it is flukes what do I do about the other 7 fish in my system
 
Posturing for a cleaner shrimp is a reaction to possible parasites. Prazipro won’t cure Neobenedenia, but it will knock it back a bit. This could also be a residual reaction to ich like you said.
Jay
 
I agree with Jay on possibility of flukes and doing a Freshwater dip. What did work for me with cloudy eye was Ruby Rally
 
So the prazi won’t kill the flukes or it will just wont heal her cloudy eye
Good for flukes, 50/50 on the eye. If treating with Prazi, see how the eye responds to Prazi
 
Ok that’s fine by me because now I’m scared I have flukes lol would rather be safe than sorry and if it heals her eye great, if not I’ll find a alternative med but, if it’s caused by a fluke it should help her eye sorta right or at least kill the flukes causing her loss of appetite and her eyes cloudyness
 
So the prazi won’t kill the flukes or it will just wont heal her cloudy eye
Prazi doesn’t kill Neo flukes because they are egg layers, and the eggs can sit for over a month and hatch then. Hyposalinity for 35 days does work.
Jay
 
Also thank you both for the help me and my mom are kinda freaked out by it because her favorite fish is our ‘dory’ and she wouldn’t be too happy if dory dies.
 
I just feed some seaweed and she saw everyone else eat and joined in and ate some see weed so that’s a relief.
 

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