For your horror...
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Welcome to R2R! Ya, that's sad
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Imagine if he's like, "this tanks beautiful! Who wouldn't want it!" to his wife, if he has one.
Scrubber_steve
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I don't agree this is a horror show.
Many years ago this old fella showed me his outdoor pond. It was built into his front yard brick fence. It measured about 3' x 2', & I don't know how deep because micro-algae (phytoplankton) made the water too soupy to gauge the depth. Anyhow, he knocked on the bricks with a rock & suddenly dozens of fish appeared at the surface, obviously looking for a feed. I commented to him that I was stunned at how many fish were in this pond, & then he told me how he had originally only introduced 4 or 5 fish into it, & the rest were the result of them breeding. In other words, the system, which had no filtration by the way, was self regulating, & this was the result. The dozens of fish in this pond, which makes your craigs list photo look as crowded as a golf course on dusk on a wednesday, were largish, fat & healthy.
This situation isn't all that unusual with goldfish/carp/koi, in my experience.
Thank you for the welcomes!
Kind of funny that I just got here and I'm already involving myself in a disagreement. I'd have to maintain that 70+ fish in 20 gallons is indeed unhealthy.
And I'd have to say I'd consider the soupy pond you describe @Scrubber_steve as a horror as well. I'm not sure that fish breeding is a sure sign of healthiness.
If I put 4 cats in a 10x10 foot room and have them food every day, they would "self regulate" into about 80 cats in due time. And would that be healthy?
I suppose health and horrors are subjective though
Kind of funny that I just got here and I'm already involving myself in a disagreement. I'd have to maintain that 70+ fish in 20 gallons is indeed unhealthy.
And I'd have to say I'd consider the soupy pond you describe @Scrubber_steve as a horror as well. I'm not sure that fish breeding is a sure sign of healthiness.
If I put 4 cats in a 10x10 foot room and have them food every day, they would "self regulate" into about 80 cats in due time. And would that be healthy?
I suppose health and horrors are subjective though
Stickboy15
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I was thinking the same thing
Scrubber_steve
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Hi undermined.
You are applying your own perceived standards of health & happiness onto a natural environment (the soupy pond), but to do so is irrelevant & inappropriate.
The fish in the pond have no concept of health or happiness. Its simply a matter of survival for them, & the environment they live in determins their population. The pond owner merely fed them ocassionally & topped up the water when necessary. If one was to come across an isolated pond in nature, that had the same volume of water, & number of fish in it, no one would consider it horrible, but rather surprising, or interesting, or amazing. Or even perhaps run of the mill stuff?
Nature is not controlled by the arbitary moral & ethical standards of humans.
Welcome to R2R by the way.
I screen cap'd it at the time, as I figured it would go down.
Nature isn't controlled by humans, but the environment we're providing the lives we're taking responsibility for is controlled by humans. I don't think 70 fish in 20g is a good environment.
But I understand and appreciate your thoughts. Thank you for the welcome.
Nature isn't controlled by humans, but the environment we're providing the lives we're taking responsibility for is controlled by humans. I don't think 70 fish in 20g is a good environment.
But I understand and appreciate your thoughts. Thank you for the welcome.
Stickboy15
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yikes
