Freedom of speech gone...?

S2G · Mar 13, 2020

I think we should make an exception for TP memes there's some real gems out there

Mastiffsrule · Mar 13, 2020

howdy all

i personally don’t understand why it is even an issue.

it is a reef forum. I don’t go to a porsche forum to start talking about Toyota recalls.

Please keep in mind though I don’t understand much.

mrpizzaface · Mar 13, 2020

I am referring to lack of vision as not recognizing when something you created and or own can be more or bigger than you intended or anticipated. Closing a thread that is unrelated/difficult because it doesn't work thematically even though it could help many of the users on the forum shows a lack of vision.
Closing a thread that could potentially help people with sickness, suffering and death, seems to be lacking in compassion.
"Happy to help you with your nitrates, but can't help you with your pandemic problems, this is a reefing forum bro."

Daniel@R2R · Mar 13, 2020

mrpizzaface said:
I am referring to lack of vision as not recognizing when something you created and or own can be more or bigger than you intended or anticipated. Closing a thread that is unrelated/difficult because it doesn't work thematically even though it could help many of the users on the forum shows a lack of vision.
Closing a thread that could potentially help people with sickness, suffering and death, seems to be lacking in compassion.
"Happy to help you with your nitrates, but can't help you with your pandemic problems, this is a reefing forum bro."

Please reread my post here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/r2r-and-the-coronavirus.699594/#post-7204704
This is not just about keeping everything reef-related. This is not about a lack of vision. It isn't about a lack of compassion. It's about trying to keep our conversation and culture as reflects the vision of the forum. We understand you disagree, but this is the decision made in the best interest of our community. We aren't perfect, and we don't claim to always make the right decisions 100% of the time, but we do the best we can.

There are much better sources of info about the situation than can be had on a reef forum. None of us are experts on this stuff, and frankly, people are better off listening to experts when it comes to this issue.

Shep · Mar 13, 2020

Rukk said:
While I concur that the media coverage is way out of hand, it would seem that if posted in appropriate locations in the forums just about any conversation conducted with some reason has been allowed.

This subject however is overly distracting from reefing and consequently there may not be nearly as many ads are clicked on. Hence a ban on the topic though there is also truth to the thought of vary opinions, etc.

However, I do respect the right of the owner in this USA to determine their own guidelines/requirements within the laws in place.

And, yes I know this will probably get me banned.

....are you really implying that we did this because it was costing ad clicks? Really? Lol I don't even know how to respond to that, that's next level conspiracy theory stuff.

mrpizzaface · Mar 13, 2020

Daniel@R2R said:
Please reread my post here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/r2r-and-the-coronavirus.699594/#post-7204704
This is not just about keeping everything reef-related. This is not about a lack of vision. It isn't about a lack of compassion. It's about trying to keep our conversation and culture as reflects the vision of the forum. We understand you disagree, but this is the decision made in the best interest of our community. We aren't perfect, and we don't claim to always make the right decisions 100% of the time, but we do the best we can. There are much better sources of info about the situation than can be had on a reef forum. None of us are experts on this stuff, and frankly, people are better off listening to experts when it comes to this issue.

I read your linked post earlier this evening. I think I understand your intentions and I don't think you were intending to be harmful. I do think the spirit of your post lacks vision and compassion. I am concerned whenever I hear people trying to protect the culture and its narrative. You are on a very slippery slope.

AZMSGT · Mar 13, 2020

I don’t come here for any other reason but to talk about reefing, tanks and fish. Anything else has no place here.

And this has nothing to do with free speech. If you aren’t paying the bills to keep this place going then just sit back and enjoy the reef talk.

AcroNem · Mar 13, 2020

Shep said:
....are you really implying that we did this because it was costing ad clicks? Really? Lol I don't even know how to respond to that, that's next level conspiracy theory stuff.

Unfortunately there's a lot of that going around

brandon429 · Mar 13, 2020

ive come here solely to bust people using bottle bac more than once

do NOT hoard dr tims

TheHarold · Mar 13, 2020

can we just be wholesome vegans

Mastiffsrule · Mar 13, 2020

brandon429 said:
ive come here solely to bust people using bottle bac more than once

do NOT hoard dr tims

this is why im a fan

Caseyoidae · Mar 13, 2020

Good decision rev. But Covid 19 would be a great coral name

HotRocks · Mar 13, 2020

Hey Everyone,
We have decided to close this thread as everyone has given their opinion on the matter. As mentioned previously by other moderators, we have a large community and it’s almost impossible for everyone to be in agreement with every decision that is made. We understand that and appreciate the participation as we also respect the opinions of all of you!
Happy Reefing!