Fresh water dip

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Hello. My fish had ick. Fish store gave me meds, a clown and gramma that didn't have ick died. Now my lady clown not looking great. Should I dip him? He's stressed and pale. Any chance he'll make it or is he on his way out??
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I don't think that's ich. And if you've already lost two fish, that's further evidence that you're dealing with something more serious than ich.

I would guess Brooklynella; does it look as though the fish's skin is peeling or sloughing off? Skin flukes is another possibility. Either way, doing a FW dip is a good first step. If it is flukes, the white spots should all fall off and settle to the bottom. See more info below.
 
Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes, Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.
 
His skin is fine other than covered in white powder looking spors
 
In some Google pictures it looks like velvet and in some looks like brooklynella. Dip doesn't solve these right
 
In some Google pictures it looks like velvet and in some looks like brooklynella. Dip doesn't solve these right

FW dip will provide temporary relief for both ailments. However, treatment is different. For brook you'd treat with formalin; for velvet, copper or Chloroquine phosphate. Actually, Chloroquine phosphate treats both if you can get your hands on some.
 
Your LFS might have a copper system and they might let you leave it for treatment
 
He's dead. I still have zoolanthids, anomie some snails and a cleaner shrimp. You are so knowledgeable, what should I do before adding more fish? Or will everything die because of this?
 
No, your corals/inverts are safe from this. It affects fish only.

If I were you, I would go fallow (fishless) in this tank for 72 days to starve any remaining parasites out.

Moving forward, I would QT all future fish purchases to ensure this never happens again: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-quarantine.189815/
 

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