Fritz Salt Issues?

[Sarlindescent]

Thanks - I guess I was asking - (in your example) 5 gallons into what volume (10, 20, 100, 1000) - (And Im really sorry to hear about your coral losses BTW),... What were the parameters pre-post. Were they that different? were you doing regular water changes i.e. every week, 2 weeks, etc. I see a partial answer in yours - so im guessing you did every 2 to 3 weeks.

I think its possibly a salt problem - just want to make that clear, depending on how it was mixed - (the one I use has a specific mixing protocol - and I've been tempted to change it I have not) - Frankly I wouldn't

5 gallons is around 15% on both tanks. That had been done every 2 weeks for 2+ years barring a few periods over time where I stretched it to 3 weeks. As for kalk and alk are a little lower than normal at 400 and 8.1, normally sit at 415 amd 8.4. I hadn't tested in 6 weeks, but in 6 weeks, they dropped 15 calc and .3 alk. Overall pretty stable IMO. Salinity is always the same 1.026, have ato. Temps 76.4- 77.4 (this is the range from apex and never goes out of it, how is 72, nonheater tanks are 74).

 

[Hemmdog]

@Hemmdog the voice of reason - do you really believe that a salt manufacturer - has no quality control - that they wouldn't notice those values. Serious question. My guess (GUESS - EMPHASIZED) - is that they test for those things before shipping a batch - if not - well - I would avoid Fritz. Its one ICP test lol

Lol I have no idea how they run things. But I’m not a big fan of Russian roulette, I think I will be avoiding fritz regardless. This thread is enough evidence alone for me to never want to even risk it.

 

[MnFish1]

There was a friend of mine who posted Fritz's ICP results and it got moved to their sponsor section (which is now gone by the way). The batch did not look good if I recall.

mentioned this a while ago - this is not a new issue

 

[MnFish1]

Doesn’t explain why their montis were fine before changing salt.

Right - and I had montis deteriorate - without any salt change. so there's that.

 

[TheHarold]

Now this is very interesting.....

I had a small rainbow and large rose. I did some large water changes when I first got my fritz. The rainbow split almost immediately. It was small to begin with but the now smaller two nems aren't extended well. The rose has been huge and fluffy but also just split

Now people have shifted from you cant grow acros with fritz, to cant grow montipora with fritz, to cant grow BTAs with fritz?!?

Perhaps you should take a look at your water change methodology. Are you not matching temperature or something?

So time to post photos of a "dying" BTA, I guess .

 

[Flippers4pups]

Fritz makes up 2000lbs of salt mix at a time and tests twice out of that batch. That equates to a quality test every twenty boxes. Salt is blended in a industrial blender. How the elements are measured and added to this, I don't know. As with any salt manufacturer, there is a possibility of "hot" spots in the blending that could potentially be added to a bucket or bag.

 

[Anthony Scholfield]

@Hemmdog the voice of reason - do you really believe that a salt manufacturer - has no quality control - that they wouldn't notice those values. Serious question. My guess (GUESS - EMPHASIZED) - is that they test for those things before shipping a batch - if not - well - I would avoid Fritz. Its one ICP test lol

I'm sure they have quality control but as I stated before hw marine had a bad batch over a year ago that got through their quality control. The thread about it can be found here on r2r. So it is possible....I'm still using fritz without problems and I'm about to start a brand new box I bought last week.

 

[MnFish1]

Lol I have no idea how they run things. But I’m not a big fan of Russian roulette, I think I will be avoiding fritz regardless. This thread is enough evidence alone for me to never want to even risk it.

Agreed - I have my salt - I dont change

 

[alton]

Fritz had a wet/liquid salt in a bucket I believe late 90's early 2000's? I used it all the time because it was cheap and I only had fish with LR back then.

 

[MnFish1]

Fritz makes up 2000lbs of salt mix at a time and tests twice out of that batch. That equates to a quality test every twenty boxes. Salt is blended in a industrial blender. How the elements are measured and added to this, I don't know. As with any salt manufacturer, there is a possibility of "hot" spots in the blending that could potentially be added to a bucket or bag.

Since you seem to know about Fritz - what do the other salt manufacturers do (I know what mine does)

 

[Flippers4pups]

The sampling is then made into saltwater and tested against controls for consistency. Any batch that doesn't stay with the plus or minus values is discarded.

 

[Flippers4pups]

Since you seem to know about Fritz - what do the other salt manufacturers do (I know what mine does)

Don't know. Good question.

 

[MnFish1]

The sampling is then made into saltwater and tested against controls for consistency. Any batch that doesn't stay with the plus or minus values is discarded.

Again - is your point to say - they aren't testing appropriately - or something else. To me it seems like you are saying the former. If so - what do the other manufacturers of salt do? Is is different - and seriously - this seems like a pile on - and I dont use Fritz.... Just doesnt seem real

 

[Flippers4pups]

Again - is your point to say - they aren't testing appropriately - or something else. To me it seems like you are saying the former. If so - what do the other manufacturers of salt do? Is is different - and seriously - this seems like a pile on - and I dont use Fritz.... Just doesnt seem real

I think your reading into what I said. I just stated what they do. Nothing more.

 

[MnFish1]

Don't know. Good question.

Sorry. Didnt see this - if you dont know - what is the point (honestly) - If xxx company dissolves 3000 pounds and tests vs another company that dissolves 1000 lbs and tests - if you dont know - there is not point - or? its unclear whether you were suggesting Fritz's method was 'right' or 'wrong' - I would have appreciated a judgement since you posted - imho - its fine to test that way

 

[Reefahholic]

Now people have shifted from you cant grow acros with fritz, to cant grow montipora with fritz, to cant grow BTAs with fritz?!?

Perhaps you should take a look at your water change methodology. Are you not matching temperature or something?

So time to post photos of a "dying" BTA, I guess .

HaHa...you make a strong point sir.

 

[TheHarold]

HaHa...you make a strong point sir.

And I've gone through well over a dozen boxes of Fritz. Never had an issue, even doing 40% water changes.

People are quick to look for a scapegoat. Its FAR more likely that they are just failing to maintain the tank properly.

 

[MnFish1]

Again - is your point to say - they aren't testing appropriately - or something else. To me it seems like you are saying the former. If so - what do the other manufacturers of salt do? Is is different - and seriously - this seems like a pile on - and I dont use Fritz.... Just doesnt seem real

why did you react to my post as sad? I was asking a question. @Flippers4pups ?

 

[Crabs McJones]

And I've gone through well over a dozen boxes of Fritz. Never had an issue, even doing 40% water changes.

People are quick to look for a scapegoat. Its FAR more likely that they are just failing to maintain the tank properly.

Good to know I'm not maintaining my tank properly

 

[Flippers4pups]

Sorry. Didnt see this - if you dont know - what is the point (honestly) - If xxx company dissolves 3000 pounds and tests vs another company that dissolves 1000 lbs and tests - if you dont know - there is not point - or? its unclear whether you were suggesting Fritz's method was 'right' or 'wrong' - I would have appreciated a judgement since you posted - imho - its fine to test that way

There was a question of their testing. Just clarifying what they do. It's public knowledge anyone can look up. I have no angle in this. I've stated my position, which is my choice and have not implied that others do the same or follow me.

Have a great day.