I could definitely see feeding saltwater fish and spacing out and scaling up the feedings as it grows to better reflect a wild/natural gorge/fast schedule being a great thing for a frogfish's health - though feeding saltwater fish would be prohibitively expensive for most people.
Well the best I would be able to do would be mollies acclimated to saltwater but that doesn't seem to works long term for most people it unfortunately seems like it's another thing better off left in the ocean
I was lucky enough that a good friend worked at my LFS so I got 30% discounts on fish which helped ALOT but even still it was pretty expensive which was one of the big reasons I ended up selling my frog
The main the for me is even just the nearest Petco is about 45 mins away so having to buy fish every 2 weeks would be annoying. I also fear the frogfish could get boring on top of that.
Yeah, a lot of people find frogfish boring because they're ambush predators, not active predators - so they don't typically move much.
I've also been reading a lot about dwarf lions and it seems like almost the same problem the need live to live longer than 3 years which I dont fully understand still but it seems to be true in most cases
It's at least in large part a diet thing - most aquarium feeds aren't great even for regular fish, and predators have largely specialized diets by comparison; I'd imagine there's an aspect of exercise/stimulation involved to it as well, but that's much harder to prove.
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I've read these threads all before there honestly what's been making me reconsider, I just don't know of many other predators good for a 60 galIt's at least in large part a diet thing - most aquarium feeds aren't great even for regular fish, and predators have largely specialized diets by comparison; I'd imagine there's an aspect of exercise/stimulation involved to it as well, but that's much harder to prove.
For lions, these threads may help (my post in the first; lion king has a ton of great threads on predators, including lionfish, that are good reads as well - they cover a lot of the same info, but go more into a discussion of why):
2 new lionfish
I went and bought ghost shrimp a krill. The guy said to mix the krill and ghost shrimp together. The seemed to only eat the ghost shrimp. Only had tge lionfish fir a couple of days. I assume no reason to worry? Krill is okay but not all the time. Neither one of my lions likes krill actually...Why a "dead only" diet is a death sentence
I have always been a advocate for feeding live foods to certain species, I have seen the increase of captive lifespan and vibrancy of these species by doing so. After contemplating on the shear failure of 999% of those that are determined to feed a dead only diet, I will no longer support this...
I think there also has something to do with fat content and different things being in saltwater fish compared to freshwater. There was an old thread of MonsterFishKeepers comparing and analyzing different feeders and a section/part about saltwater feeders being a lot more lean and less fatty than freshwater fish which feeding a large portion of freshwater fish correlated to fatty livers and such. Not sure about frogfish I don’t know many people dissecting their frogfish and doing necropsies after they pass to figure out what they died from.It's at least in large part a diet thing - most aquarium feeds aren't great even for regular fish, and predators have largely specialized diets by comparison; I'd imagine there's an aspect of exercise/stimulation involved to it as well, but that's much harder to prove.
For lions, these threads may help (my post in the first; lion king has a ton of great threads on predators, including lionfish, that are good reads as well - they cover a lot of the same info, but go more into a discussion of why):
2 new lionfish
I went and bought ghost shrimp a krill. The guy said to mix the krill and ghost shrimp together. The seemed to only eat the ghost shrimp. Only had tge lionfish fir a couple of days. I assume no reason to worry? Krill is okay but not all the time. Neither one of my lions likes krill actually...Why a "dead only" diet is a death sentence
I have always been a advocate for feeding live foods to certain species, I have seen the increase of captive lifespan and vibrancy of these species by doing so. After contemplating on the shear failure of 999% of those that are determined to feed a dead only diet, I will no longer support this...
Could maybe do a Marine Betta?
Yeah, the nutritional profile of freshwater fish is different from saltwater fish - mollies, guppies, and ghost/grass shrimp are the go-to recommendations for feeders because they're brackish species, and their nutritional profile is substantially better than freshwater species (though they may not be as good as true saltwater species).
So gut loaded ghost shrimp and brackish guppies are a good staple? Should I do the occasional chunk of salmon and muscles as well? I still haven't heard of them living a full life in a tank which is annoying because I bet there is some guy out there who's probably had one for 20 years and he's just like "yeah it eats whatever I throw in"
It's better than freshwater feeders and the average dead diet, yes - is it adequate to sustain a frogfish long-term? I honestly don't know (though I would assume it's not as good as a saltwater fish diet).
Yeah, you should be able to gutload the feeders with the algae - I would just add a bit more or a bit of variety with it to be safe (probably not necessary though).
Ive also been contemplating a dwarf lion probably a fuzzy because they seem to be more successful. But if I were to go with a lion I'd want to try tank mates like maroon clowns, halichoeres wrasse, and goby but I'm not a fan of the "he might eat it he might not"
