Frogspawn dropping polyps?!

[gsjustin]

I literally just watched a polyp drop off my frogspawn. It seems to have attached itself to a spot nearby it's source! Good or bad?!

 

[Tahoe61]

That is called Polyp Bail Out. Under some cases it caused by stress, so check chemistry. The polyp may appear to survive for weeks but rarely does one actually go on to build a stony skeleton.

 

[gsjustin]

That is called Polyp Bail Out. Under some cases it caused by stress, so check chemistry. The polyp may appear to survive for weeks but rarely does one actually go on to build a stony skeleton.

Polyps MIA, all I know is it's not on a piece of coral

 

[un5tab1e]

If they all bail don't throw out the skeleton. They can grow back after you figure out what is causing the bail out.

 

[Abyssions]

I notice my hammer does a bailout when it is splitting heads, that could be from the stress from it splitting. So yours could be splitting atm. Hows the water chemistry?

 

[gsjustin]

I notice my hammer does a bailout when it is splitting heads, that could be from the stress from it splitting. So yours could be splitting atm. Hows the water chemistry?

I had thought about that also and I think that's what's happening, I noticed the mouth opening last night with the lights off. Params: mg: 1420 ca: 440 alk: 8.1
Sg: 1.024 weekly 10% water change tank size is 15 gallon approaching 6 months old

 

[Tab28]

Nitrates and phosphates and PH. Have you had any alk swings? Sounds like it not happy. Is it a bailout or melting. Your frag looks small. A bailout would have been done quickly. A bailout the entire polyp will leave the skeleton as if it is trying to move. Since the polyp consist of mouth and all the tentacles. Melting the head basically starts to fall apart dropping tentacles piece by piece.

 

[gsjustin]

Nitrates and phosphates and PH. Have you had any alk swings? Sounds like it not happy. Is it a bailout or melting. Your frag looks small. A bailout would have been done quickly. A bailout the entire polyp will leave the skeleton as if it is trying to move. Since the polyp consist of mouth and all the tentacles. Melting the head basically starts to fall apart dropping tentacles piece by piece.

My frog spawn looks small in the first post but when it's open (which is everyday) it's 5x bigger than what you see. The mouth is opening too so I'm assuming it's getting ready to split

 

[gsjustin]

Nitrates and phosphates and PH. Have you had any alk swings? Sounds like it not happy. Is it a bailout or melting. Your frag looks small. A bailout would have been done quickly. A bailout the entire polyp will leave the skeleton as if it is trying to move. Since the polyp consist of mouth and all the tentacles. Melting the head basically starts to fall apart dropping tentacles piece by piece.

Also as for nitrate it's 12 ppm but it's been 10-15 for the past 4ish months. Phosphates are unknown but I don't have any algae so I'm assuming they're low/undetectable. Nitrite and ammonia are 0ppm ph is 7.9 in the morning and 8.1 towards the middle/end of the day.

 

[Tab28]

None of the numbers you mentioned are bad. Nitrates would not let get any higher. But still not bad for LPS. No alk spike? Are you dosing?

If you are having polyp bail the entire head leaves the skeleton. So in one fail swoop it goes from polyp with tentacles to skeleton only. So each entire head is gone as the entire polyp bails out. So if you had bail out the entire polyp head is no longer there. The tentacles are not the polyps but part of the polyp.

Melting pieces fall off the head. Generally starts as pieces of tentacles falling off. The entire polyp stays attached until it completely slowly falls apart. But if mouth is gapping open it is not happy.

 

[gsjustin]

None of the numbers you mentioned are bad. Nitrates would not let get any higher. But still not bad for LPS. No alk spike? Are you dosing?

If you are having polyp bail the entire head leaves the skeleton. So in one fail swoop it goes from polyp with tentacles to skeleton only. So each entire head is gone as the entire polyp bails out. So if you had bail out the entire polyp head is no longer there. The tentacles are not the polyps but part of the polyp.

Melting pieces fall off the head. Generally starts as pieces of tentacles falling off. The entire polyp stays attached until it completely slowly falls apart. But if mouth is gapping open it is not happy.

this is how my frogspawn looks everyday so I'm assuming the polyp bailout that happened was normal not caused by stress

 

[Tab28]

How many polyps did it have? I only see one polyp which is one head.

 

[gsjustin]

How many polyps did it have? I only see one polyp which is one head.

It's a two head frogspawn

 

[Tab28]

Then if you had one polyp bail you would be at one polyp left or one head. The entire head and all its dozens of tentacles is one polyp.

The last picture you posted the one polyp or head looked fine. If that is the way it looks now. It may have been something as simple as an alk swing.

 

[Vividgraphx]

hope you kept the skeleton. I had the same thing happen with frogspawn. I now have about 5 full heads growing.