Frogspawn-octospawn keeps on shinking day by day

reefer2000 · Jun 23, 2020

Hello all. I bouth this guy about a month ago and its been open and all perfect until this recent week it started shrinking day by day. All my other euphyllias are feeling great and the other corals to. My guess is that either the light is too much which is ecotech xr30 pro on aclimation set for top intensity to hit 45%, and the other guess is that its turning into 2 heads but they are still conjoined, but in a very small area. At this point I dont know because my other euphyllia are all open and looking healthy. Any help is apreciated
Tank params.
Alk-7.7
Cal-470
Mag-1430
Nitrate-5-10
Phosphate-0.03
Salinity-1.025
Temp-25-26 degrees celcius

Angelwolf21203 · Jun 23, 2020

Well, firstly, your alkalinity is way low. You should be closer to around 12dKH. Try to move it around the tank, like under a hangover, or away from that hammer-it may be getting stung. Good luck!

Whasmack · Jun 23, 2020

Take it out & dip it. I've had them get demolished by Euphyllia eating flatworms.

adrianr514 · Jun 23, 2020

Angelwolf21203 said:
Well, firstly, your alkalinity is way low. You should be closer to around 12dKH. Try to move it around the tank, like under a hangover. Good luck!

Woah woah. Where did you get that info from??

7dkh is Natural seawater alkalinity so an Alk of 7.7 is completely fine and acceptable.

Keeping high dKH tanks is a fairly new thing and 12 dKH is on the upper spectrum of what’s acceptable.

MoonRay · Jun 23, 2020

Reefinity said:
Take it out & dip it. I've had them get demolished by Euphyllia eating flatworms.

Out of curiosity, do you mean dip it in freshwater or another type of chemical?

MoonRay · Jun 23, 2020

When was the last time you fed? Do you spot feed your corals?

AKReef · Jun 23, 2020

MoonRay said:
Out of curiosity, do you mean dip it in freshwater or another type of chemical?

In my experience euphyllias tolerate freshwater dips very well. Very effective in getting rid of pests. Don't try it with other corals though.

reefer2000 · Jun 23, 2020

adrianr514 said:
Woah woah. Where did you get that info from??

7dkh is Natural seawater alkalinity so an Alk of 7.7 is completely fine and acceptable.

Keeping high dKH tanks is a fairly new thing and 12 dKH is on the upper spectrum of what’s acceptable.

thank you for mentioning that because i was questioning my education on alk lol

reefer2000 · Jun 23, 2020

MoonRay said:
When was the last time you fed? Do you spot feed your corals?

I spot fed it polylab reefroids last week and dose amino acids everyday

reefer2000 · Jun 23, 2020

Reefinity said:
Take it out & dip it. I've had them get demolished by Euphyllia eating flatworms.

I already glued it to the rock but I diped it before puting it in and cannot spot any pests on it

Angelwolf21203 · Jun 23, 2020

adrianr514 said:
Woah woah. Where did you get that info from??

7dkh is Natural seawater alkalinity so an Alk of 7.7 is completely fine and acceptable.

Keeping high dKH tanks is a fairly new thing and 12 dKH is on the upper spectrum of what’s acceptable.

My LFS who has been in business for over 30 years. Mine runs about 13 which is fine, according to them. Also, many other reefers on here say that too.

reefer2000 · Jun 23, 2020

Angelwolf21203 said:
My LFS who has been in business for over 30 years. Mine runs about 13 which is fine, according to them. Also, many other reefers on here say that too.

In my experiance from 6.7-9.5 seems to be the perfect spot, havn't been in this hobby as long as you but have been around for 3-4 years and had 3 tanks 3rd being this nano 20 gallon, and would say that higher end alk 10-14 killed of some of my corals specially lps

reefer2000 · Jun 23, 2020

Angelwolf21203 said:
My LFS who has been in business for over 30 years. Mine runs about 13 which is fine, according to them. Also, many other reefers on here say that too.

In my experiance from 6.7-9.5 seems to be the perfect spot

reefer2000 said:
Hello all. I bouth this guy about a month ago and its been open and all perfect until this recent week it started shrinking day by day. All my other euphyllias are feeling great and the other corals to. My guess is that either the light is too much which is ecotech xr30 pro on aclimation set for top intensity to hit 45%, and the other guess is that its turning into 2 heads but they are still conjoined, but in a very small area. At this point I dont know because my other euphyllia are all open and looking healthy. Any help is apreciated
Tank params.
Alk-7.7
Cal-470
Mag-1430
Nitrate-5-10
Phosphate-0.03
Salinity-1.025
Temp-25-26 degrees celcius

I just fed the coral seems to be happier but its still retracted

Angelwolf21203 · Jun 23, 2020

reefer2000 said:
In my experiance from 6.7-9.5 seems to be the perfect spot, havn't been in this hobby as long as you but have been around for 3-4 years and had 3 tanks 3rd being this nano 20 gallon, and would say that higher end alk 10-14 killed of some of my corals specially lps

You could be right by that. I'm still learning too! Been doing this for almost 20 years, myself, but learning every day.

andrewey · Jun 23, 2020

Angelwolf21203 said:
My LFS who has been in business for over 30 years. Mine runs about 13 which is fine, according to them. Also, many other reefers on here say that too.

I'm sorry, but you probably shouldn't be suggesting this, whether or not it came from a LFS you enjoy.. While you can run a tank with an elevated alkalinity, this is not the norm for most reefers. Moreover, tanks should only be run at elevated alkalinity if the aquarist understands the challenges of higher alkalinity such as alk burn on tips with ULNS or the increased abiotic preciptation. I would never suggest all reefers run at that level- it's much easier to suggest a level closer to NSW for your average hobbyist.

Makers Marc · Jun 23, 2020

Angelwolf21203 said:
You could be right by that. I'm still learning too! Been doing this for almost 20 years, myself, but learning every day.

You've been doing this for 20 years, but you rely on what your LFS tells you? Sorry, but advice like yours on messageboards is prime example of how ppl can't rely on forums for their tanks.

Id also aim for 7-9dkh OP.

Thespammailaccount · Jun 23, 2020

reefer2000 said:
In my experiance from 6.7-9.5 seems to be the perfect spot, havn't been in this hobby as long as you but have been around for 3-4 years and had 3 tanks 3rd being this nano 20 gallon, and would say that higher end alk 10-14 killed of some of my corals specially lps

Alk 11.5. Would not recommend this alk level with a low nitrate like 2. Stability is key more so than a number. Have been slowly lowering alk to slow growth running out of room currently at 9.7

reefer2000 · Jun 23, 2020

Thespammailaccount said:
Alk 11.5. Would not recommend this alk level with a low nitrate like 2. Stability is key more so than a number. Have been slowly lowering alk to slow growth running out of room currently at 9.7

Wow amazing tank! Same here always had succes at 9.5 alk

Thespammailaccount · Jun 23, 2020

reefer2000 said:
Wow amazing tank! Same here always had succes at 9.5 alk

Thank you

Backreefing · Jun 23, 2020

adrianr514 said:
Woah woah. Where did you get that info from??

7dkh is Natural seawater alkalinity so an Alk of 7.7 is completely fine and acceptable.

Keeping high dKH tanks is a fairly new thing and 12 dKH is on the upper spectrum of what’s acceptable.

Actually high DKH tanks are old school . Back in the day 1990s we were being told as high as possible 11DKH min.