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So right off the bat I want to say thank you for any advice and taking the time to help. I am looking for and advice on what the best approach is on moving forward with my reef tank.

So here is the deal,

I am fairly new to the saltwater hobby in general let alone building a reef tank. I spent about two months doing research on the tank before purchasing and quickly realized I knew very little about reefing and have basically been taking advice from the people at the LFS (which was obviously a massive mistake...) ever since.

So heres a general walk through of my experience from initial set up (5/29/2018) to where the tank currently stands today (6/26/2018).

Purchased:
  • Tank - Red Sea Reefer 170 (43.5 gal)
  • Light - AI Prime HD (1)
  • Protein Skimmer - Bubble Magnus (lower end model)
  • Dry Rock - ≈ 20 lbs
  • Live Sand - Shallow bed

Initial Set Up: (5/29/18)
Added two clownfish and a bottle of TubroStart 900 Live Nitrifying Bacteria on (6/5/18). I lost one clownfish about 36 hours later to what appeared to be respiratory problems and loss of color. Water parameters all seamed to be in check for what I was able to test for (ph, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate). The second clown appeared to be healthy (for the most part, did not seemed stressed) for about two and half full weeks (6/22/18). At this point water was still in check but salinity had gradually dropped to about 1.022 (I have read this should not be a problem for just one clown). There was also what appeared to be very long string like algae growth forming on the rocks.

Purchased: (6/23/18)
  • Added 2 nickle size Trochus snails
  • 3 dwarf blue legged hermit crabs
  • 1 clownfish
At this point everything in the tank appeared to be very healthy and not acting abnormal in any way. Water Parameters mid day (6/24/18)
  • Ph - 8.0
  • Ammonia - 0 ppm
  • Nitrite - 0 ppm
  • Nitrate - 0.1 ppm
  • Salinity - 1.023-1.024
Purchased: (6/24/18) - Late afternoon
  • Zoanthid Frag
When I returned home from the fish store, the most recent clown purchase definitely appeared to have symptoms of Brooklynella. Starting getting white spots, losing color fast from the gills back, died in about a six hour span of what appeared to be the start of abnormal activity (hanging at the top of the tank, apparent respiratory issues). All water parameters still in check at this point.

(6/25/18) - Late afternoon

  • Both Throchus Snails have not moved in a while
  • Second clownfish begins to show the same symptoms as the first. Died in almost the exact same 6 hour span
  • Crabs seem fine
  • Zoa only slightly open
  • Water still stable

Where my tank currently stands

I appears that both of my snails are now dead. They have some slime growing around them. The only life in the tank at this point are 3 blue legged crabs and a zoa frag. Is it okay to leave these dead snails or should I remove them?

I would really appreciate any advice that anyone is willing to give me on what my next few steps should be. I fully intent on waiting to appropriate 8-10 weeks before adding fish to insure I rid the tank of possible Brook parasites. I would also like to get the tank fully cycled, I'm just not sure on the best method or steps to take based on where my tank currently stands.

Tanks again,

Tyl3r
 
What is your temp and what is your flow like?

You are on the right track. I would hold off on more fish like you planned.

How are you testing SG and what test kits are you using?
 
IMO, your going to fast. The tank didn't properly cycle before you started adding a lot of live stock. Dry rock takes a lot longer to cycle. I was wondering what you are using to test your water?
 
What is your temp and what is your flow like?

You are on the right track. I would hold off on more fish like you planned.

How are you testing SG and what test kits are you using?

Temp - averages about 77.2
Measuring SG with an 'IceCap Salinity/Temp tester' and using the Red Sea testing kit
Flow is moderate - not sure on specific return pump at the moment
 
It’s simple your going way to fast.. I would let the tank cycle for at least 8 to 12 weeks before adding anything.
 
Welcome to R2R! Take all already dead stuff out and don't add anything to your tank. Watch "52 Weeks of Reefing" https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/video/view/week-1-our-best-reef-tank-build-yet/ start to finish twice. With your new found knowledge watch more BRS videos and read all you can on the R2R forums. Than ask questions from fellow reefers. By then your tank should be fully cycled. Read more on the R2R forums, ask more questions and very slowly start to add inhabitants to your tank. After that.... read more on the R2R forums etc.
 
You should feed the tank even with nothing in it, or dose ammonia. You need something to feed the bacteria or else it will just die. You will see you ammonia levels spike, and then fall to zero. At that point you are probably safe to add a single small fish.
 
Your salt looks a little low. Bring up to 1.026. I think a Red Sea tank has a auto top off... if not get one soon as it will help the most to keep you tank stable. Your LFS should not of sold you living things so soon. You know that now and are a bit wiser... find other fish stores within a hour or so drive so you can find one you can trust. If you live in or near New Jersey or Pennsylvania I can recommend some.
 
I agree with the others. Take it slow. It's tough to be patient but far better in the long run. The 52weeks of reefing videos were invaluable.

I recently finished my first build as well. Even though I was adding starter bacteria I still took 2.5 months to fully cycle the tank before any fish additions.
 
Whenever I cycle a new tank or a quarantine tank I use Bio-spira from instant ocean to help boost the nitrifying bacteria. I also always hang a small ammo alert sensor that is made by Seachem.. It gives you warning if there is any ammonia starting to build up in the tank. If your LFS does not carry these you can find them on Amazon. I think I got a three pack of the ammo alerts for either 12 or $15 ; it is worth it for just a little bit of peace of mind !
 

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