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Hi, All!

Haven't kept a marine tank in more than a couple of years - since trickle filters with rotating spraybars were the exciting front line of captive reefs - though I've almost never not had freshwater aquaria during the interim. My last marine tank was a 55 gallon reef with just such a filter, and ended up housing one tomato clownfish and a single purple (not orchid) dottyback, which I only saw when it dashed out to destroy any new fish I added to the tank. The temptation is strong though, and I've finally given in; there's a shiny new 65 gallon tank on a stand in the kitchen. (Love the height and depth on this one!)

There's a 300 watt Mars-Aqua LED light sitting in it, which arrived Friday night with one diode gone dark. (I've launched a query to MarsHydro, but haven't heard back yet - it's the weekend, so I'm OK with that!)

Although it wasn't planned, it's beginning to seem as though the "black Friday" timeframe isn't going to be a horrible one for bringing in the equipment I'll need (or want, as the case may be . . . ) to do reefing right.

So, since everything is new, I thought I'd bounce my prospective equipment list off the experienced minds here, and see just how many ways I'm planning to "do it wrong":

Tank & stand are a Petsmart set. Standard 65 gallon, 36x18x30" or so. Stand isn't perfect - there's a shelf in it, which cuts across the main compartment at 18"; that's going to limit sump options, probably to a 20 long. I fear it'll also restrict protien skimming to a HOB.

Skimmer: Reef Octopus Classic 2000

CPR HOB Refugium, 25" (Can you ever have too many 'pods?)

MaxSpect Gyre for water movement

Carib-Sea's "Ocean Direct" oolite sand ... opinions on depth are welcome! ... this would go in the display, the refugium and the 20-long sump, which I'll have a go at DIY-ing. (And will such a small sump be able to handle a power outage?) and could be shallow (maybe deep enough for a fairy or flasher wrasse? I like wrasses...) in the display, but deeper in the 'fuge, the sump or both. Might consider adding a bit of "Miracle Mud" to either 'fuge or sump.

Thinking in terms of an Eheim 600gph or so return from the sump.

After getting things cranked up, I'm considering about 80-90# of liverock, and a mixed group of corals, from zoas & mushrooms to LPS and SPS. (Fortunately, I've got some time to research compatibility and other potential issues while the tank cycles!)

Fish on my list would include fire-gobies, zebra dartfish, yellowtail damsels, Banggai cardinals, neon/sharknose gobies, _maybe_ a young kole tang, and the aforementioned wrasse. Looking to create a tiny habitat to explore, come to know, and get a little bit lost in.

With apologies for such a long first post, and my thanks to all those who've made it this far, any experienced input from the assembled minds would be welcome!

~Bruce
 
You don't need sand for fairy or flasher wrasses, they sleep in the rocks. Other than that looks like a good list well planned out
 
Thanks, Anthony!

Good to know that the wrasses can get by with moderate/no sand. (Given to understand they'll need a lid, though...)

Have heard back from MarsHydro - they suggested I re-test the light, and that they might be able to send out a replacement diode. (Have never attempted anything like a diode replacement!)

~Bruce
 
If you want sand dwellers stay away from the sugar sand olitic in the DT. It's messy. The standard .01 I think it is will serve you better no matter what the depth.

I'm a deep sand bed guy btw. I have olitic mixed but put a deep cap of standard to coarse sand on top.
 
You may want to consider a little more what type of corals and live stock you'd like as you choose gear. A stronger skimmer and more return volume is better for SPS. An under power or at tank volume skimmer and lower return will result in a higher nutrient tank for Zoas LPS etc.
Your going job fuge so you may as well stay slightly higher nutrient. Zoa LPS gorg softie tank is easier with less work and in 3 to 8 months just downright beautiful.

In my 55 I have a tunze 9002 and love it super small rated to 75g but I can adjust it way down.
In my hob fuge experience had them for 3 years. I put in only Chato macro and live rock. As in time it collects lotsa detritus. I would start to get algae etc in the DT. Clean the hob fuge and the prob would stop. Happened every 4 to 6 months. Fiji mud is what I use in my fuges and to seed my tank.
 
Nature's ocean Aussie gold live sand, it's not very common, has very nice orangy gold tint and a grain size to avoid sand clouds!
 
Thanks, SaltyFilm and ReefRookie!

Will have a look at the Tunze, Fiji mud, and Aussie Gold sand - all are intriguing. Also, good to know about the nutrient buildup in the 'fuges, and that algae is an observable symptom!

The skimmer I'm looking at is probably a bit overpowered for a 65, but I'd rather be over than under! I'd looked at some lesser skimmers that said they were capable of handling this tank size, only to find out that rating was for lightly stocked FOWLR systems. I'm hoping for something that's more than "just a fishtank"...

~B.
 
Glad to help another tank being born.
It's not always better over than under. You can starve corals. I went a little over. With a great skimmer. iPa green to black sludge with the turn of a screw.
 
Checking the listing for the Reef Octopus Classic 2000, it's rated for 75 gallons at "heavy demand" - so maybe just about perfect. (Certainly don't want to starve the corals!) Hopefully, I should be able to adjust for a dense, dark skimmate.

Thanks again!

~B.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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