GHA keeps coming back

#1 if your using api test kit stop ! Buy a better test kit Redsea or salifert yes they cost more but they are worth every penny especially when you run into problems and you cant trust your results that cheap test kit costing you so much more ! You need accurate test results to get to the root of the problem. Your phosphate cant be 0 and nitrates are high , you most likely need more water flow more skimming less feeding. You can try physically try remove as much as you can as well if you can remove the rock with no coral you can buy some hydrogen peroxide and apply it to the alage for a min or 2 and put back in the tank by the next day most will be gone . But this is a temporary fix !! You must figure out your root of the problem.
Great advice but phosphates actually can be zero... technically. If your algae and tank are eating it as it enters, you’re feeding them a healthy meal. So technically even though it’s being introduced, it’s being eaten before it can be detected.
 
#1 if your using api test kit stop ! Buy a better test kit Redsea or salifert yes they cost more but they are worth every penny especially when you run into problems and you cant trust your results that cheap test kit costing you so much more ! You need accurate test results to get to the root of the problem. Your phosphate cant be 0 and nitrates are high , you most likely need more water flow more skimming less feeding. You can try physically try remove as much as you can as well if you can remove the rock with no coral you can buy some hydrogen peroxide and apply it to the alage for a min or 2 and put back in the tank by the next day most will be gone . But this is a temporary fix !! You must figure out your root of the problem.

+1 for Salifert for nitrate, calcium, kdh, magnesium
Hanna ULR for phosphate
 
I’m a big fan of scrubbing the rock in a bucket of tank water. Also siphon all the gravel. This means removing all the rock. It’s the best thing I did for my tank. I will be doing this annually.
 
No, it is still brand new in the box. I've never used it before.

So, GHA in a tank that is two years old is obviously a nutrient issue; either import or export.

IMO, just do a series of decently sized water changes (30%+) over the next few weeks, aggressively remove all algae you can with tweezer, and monitor what you are putting into the tank. It’s tough looking at an ugly tank, but it will clear up.

Your tank was running stable for two years with no GHA issues and it just popped up recently? Something had to have changed.

Are you feeding your coral with anything like reefroids or coral aminos? If you are, I’d stop immediately. I’d cut back your feeding and start using frozen foods (I’ve had great luck with Rods).
 
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I had a GHA problem for six months. Tried everything. Peroxide, manual removal, etc.
Then I tried Vibrant. I recommend you do the same. Add it once a week. Worked wonders for me.
 
5-10 emerald crabs in your tank might do the trick. They are really good at eating algae - better than snails for anything except film algae.
 
Stop buying your water and make your own is the best advice I can give you. Get a bucket of salt, RODI (or at least a water filter) and a refractometer. I know this hobby isn’t cheap but taking short cuts it what causes these problems.
I consider the water from my 3 LFS stores to be good but I have never tested for phosphates or nitrates. I'll have to do that next time. If Saullman does this it could rule out, or in, your concern
 
No, it is still brand new in the box. I've never used it before.
One way to control nitrate and phosphates is to use it. I think I remember you said you had a skimmer. That is important with carbon dosing. You have to be careful because it can drive those levels to zero, which is not healthy either. So, you have to test for nitrates every other day per instructions. This won't help a lot until you can pin point where the nutrients are coming from and correct that too. I've used it and it works.
 
I was also thinking salinity is a little low along with a lower pH. That could perhaps cause some issues in my personal experience. I recently bought some saltwater from a different LFS than my typical and I didn't test it prior to doing the water change. All the corals shrunk up and I thought it was strange. I then tested to saltwater from the store and the salinity was 1.023 when I had been using consistently 1.025 from another store. All of the coral closed up and I had to slowly raise the salinity back up to 1.025. After that they all opened right back up. A very small difference can cause a world of difference in a corals response. Goodluck!
 
I'd say try the NO3 Po4 x. Ive been having GHA for a month now and started using the above 2 weeks ago at a very reduced rate. About 1/3 of the recommended dose for 1 week to see how it effects the system. After not much change I increased the dosag to 80% of thr recommended dose a few days ago. So far with Manuel removal it seems to have slowed down. I have a thread on this below if you fancy a look. I'll be updating this each week.

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?posts/6088749

Be sure to have an efficient protien skimmer if you go with nopox as it will Lower the oxygen levels in the tank and you will see the skimmate become a green colour.


Good luck
 
I was also thinking salinity is a little low along with a lower pH. That could perhaps cause some issues in my personal experience. I recently bought some saltwater from a different LFS than my typical and I didn't test it prior to doing the water change. All the corals shrunk up and I thought it was strange. I then tested to saltwater from the store and the salinity was 1.023 when I had been using consistently 1.025 from another store. All of the coral closed up and I had to slowly raise the salinity back up to 1.025. After that they all opened right back up. A very small difference can cause a world of difference in a corals response. Goodluck!
In a reef tank, stability is above anything else, most important. By switching water from other LFS, you are throwing pH, salinity, Ca, Mg, and other elements off. It’s a major shock to your system. Most likely they use different salts. They most likely don’t use RODI. I highly recommend anyone who is serious about a long term reef tank to make their own water.
 
In a reef tank, stability is above anything else, most important. By switching water from other LFS, you are throwing pH, salinity, Ca, Mg, and other elements off. It’s a major shock to your system. Most likely they use different salts. They most likely don’t use RODI. I highly recommend anyone who is serious about a long term reef tank to make their own water.

I made my own RO/DI water until I moved for medical school and now I have to use store bought water. Absolutely agree with not chasing parameters, but they do have to be within a specific range or biologically they cant perform their normal functions to sustain life. I have so many tanks and none are the same. Just simply meant that coral are very touchy. If they came from certain parameters (1.025 salinity) when they are placed in a lower salinity (1.022) they will react poorly. They are both certainly ro/di water. I test the TDS and its 0 on the pure water. Just think their salinity was a little different between the two. I'm sure the lower salinity worked for the other store vs the other. All about stability over long term. I changed it slightly by using the other water and it was a drastic difference in the coral reaction.
 
So, GHA in a tank that is two years old is obviously a nutrient issue; either import or export.

IMO, just do a series of decently sized water changes (30%+) over the next few weeks, aggressively remove all algae you can with tweezer, and monitor what you are putting into the tank. It’s tough looking at an ugly tank, but it will clear up.

Your tank was running stable for two years with no GHA issues and it just popped up recently? Something had to have changed.

Are you feeding your coral with anything like reefroids or coral aminos? If you are, I’d stop immediately. I’d cut back your feeding and start using frozen foods (I’ve had great luck with Rods).

I have had GHA for months now. It's not a new problem.
In terms of corals, I don't feed them anything.
I only have 2 fish and a shrimp. I am feeding them LRS.
 
I had a GHA problem for six months. Tried everything. Peroxide, manual removal, etc.
Then I tried Vibrant. I recommend you do the same. Add it once a week. Worked wonders for me.

My lfs also recommended Vibrant, but isn't that just masking the problem? I need to figure out the root of the problem otherwise the GHA will just keep coming back.
 
My lfs also recommended Vibrant, but isn't that just masking the problem? I need to figure out the root of the problem otherwise the GHA will just keep coming back.

Not sure what the root cause was. Phosphates under .03 and 5 nitrates. A few weeks of vibrant and it hasn’t come back since.
 
My lfs also recommended Vibrant, but isn't that just masking the problem? I need to figure out the root of the problem otherwise the GHA will just keep coming back.


I really love R2R. I had no idea what Vibrant was so I did a web search . Second hit was an R2R posting by someone representing the company. It turns out to be basically bacteria dosing with strains of bacteria that can consume the nutrients and "clean" the tank. Not sure it is effective but it shouldn't hurt. UCF alum had success with it. It does not seem like a bandaid because Carbon dosing with NoPox is similar in that it feeds bacteria that converts the nitrates and phosphates into compounds that can get skimmed out. Its a nutrient export tool per the company's claims

So, I would do the following:
Keep up the water changes and sand cleaning and filter cleaning at least once a week
Physically remove as much as possible. Toothbrush the rocks outside of the tank if possible. Siphon out the remnants as you brush in the tank if you can't remove it. Do this every water change until it gets under control
Start dosing with the NoPox you have.
Get better test kits
Use vibrant if you want. Seems like it might help
 
Do you have a refugium with Chaeto, etc? If not you might consider adding one if possible. The Chaeto will help compete with the GHA on nutrient export. As the Chaeto grows it will consume more and help starve out the algae in your display tank.

It will not happen over night. It will take about a month or so once the Fuge is in.

Once I added a fuge I have been pretty much algae free in my DT and now I have to dose Nitrates nightly.

Currently fighting GHA and doing this exact thing. Chaeto is growing so hoping this works...
 
You can take out the rocks and spray with hydrogen peroxide dont spray the corals and then rinse the rock in tank water replace and replace or buy vibrant and use special bacteria to out compete the algae.
Those are really or only two options.
Gha will grow even in ULNS
 

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