Going Fallow for the big 76, need QT advice...

[MiamiRice]

So I am finally doing the inevitable and going fallow for 76+ days to "reset" my 30 gallon tank. Although it's relatively stocked, it is fairly new (~3 months) and doing something like this will only get harder as time goes on - plus I would like to start implementing excellent QT/introductory practices to maintain the health of my system as best I can...


Here is where I need your help:

1) my clowns almost definitely have brook and I have also seen one or both of them "flash" at times. I've done freshwater dips along with dips in ich-x which have temporarily solved the issues, but it keeps coming back.
2) I suspect both my leopard wrasse and helfrichi to have some sort of parasitic infection as they both have "flashed" (infrequently, but still doing it) since I've added them to the tank. Also, my helfrichi has some scars from an encounter with another helfrichi (who I've since removed) that don't seem to be healing too well.
3) Catalina goby seems to have some sort of rot on his tail, as it has been degraded since i've added him with no signs of getting better.
4) Yasha + 2 neon gobies seem completely unaffected in every way, except for the fact that someone nipped my Yasha's dorsal sail, which has since showed encouraging signs of healing .

I've been very observant of the tank, so I've caught these signs of infection or fin damage very early on and although there is an ailment with nearly every fish, everyone is relatively stable, eating, and swimming around as normal. While i know something *is* wrong in my tank, I don't fully know what *it* is; therefore, I don't quite know how to proceed given all the options there are for treatment.

My thought is to setup two 10-gallon QT tanks - one medicated and one for the purpose of housing things once they have been treated (I could use both for medication if necessary though). I would like to do this all to accomplish three things: 1) eradicate parasites and bacterial strains from DT (which will be accomplished by going fallow for 76+ days) 2) Specifically and preventatively address any parasitic, bacterial and/or fungal infections of my current fish stock 3) Keep things ALIVE in QT i.e. use the most gentle, yet effective methods to ensure their health while in QT and at the same time, make sure I am ridding them of the infections.

Please help! (@Humblefish I would love to hear your insight!)

 

[Idoc]

I like the idea of using both 10g tanks as medication tanks. That many fish are too many to house in one 10g tank for 76 days. Their aggression toward each other could be because they are all cracked in the 30g and not able to claim much area as their own.

Plus, you are going to probably need to treat all the fish with the same meds anyhow...if one fishhas the issue, they will probably all have it.

 

[MiamiRice]

I like the idea of using both 10g tanks as medication tanks. That many fish are too many to house in one 10g tank for 76 days. Their aggression toward each other could be because they are all cracked in the 30g and not able to claim much area as their own.

Plus, you are going to probably need to treat all the fish with the same meds anyhow...if one fishhas the issue, they will probably all have it.

Yea I am definitely going to spread them out between the two 10 gallons after treatment during the 76 day period, I don't plan to keep them all in one for that time frame. There is literally no aggression in my DT at this point, but there was very minor "herding" which escalated to a few nips between two helfrichis - those guys do not do well in multiples unless they are a mated pair.

 

[HotRocks]

I also will add recommendation of treating in both tanks. Too many fish for a single 10gallon. For the aggression reason mentioned by @Idoc as well as controlling ammonia. You will fight ammonia in the smaller 10g tanks.

If you suspect brook metroplex is an easy way to treat that. You could use Genral cure which will cover brook as well as deworm the fish of flukes etc.

Copper treatment is a must for me personally with Wrasse. They have such a thick mucus coat that they are wonderful at carrying disease without any visible symptoms like white spots etc.

 

[Mark]

If they were in a 30 gallon, I would go to Petco and grab a cheap 29 gallon and treat them in it. Maintaining stability in two 10 gallon tanks would be more fickle than a single 29. A simple hang on power filter and an air stone will do the trick.

 

[4FordFamily]

I also will add recommendation of treating in both tanks. Too many fish for a single 10gallon. For the aggression reason mentioned by @Idoc as well as controlling ammonia. You will fight ammonia in the smaller 10g tanks.

If you suspect brook metroplex is an easy way to treat that. You could use Genral cure which will cover brook as well as deworm the fish of flukes etc.

Copper treatment is a must for me personally with Wrasse. They have such a thick mucus coat that they are wonderful at carrying disease without any visible symptoms like white spots etc.

I could not have said it any better!

 

[MiamiRice]

I also will add recommendation of treating in both tanks. Too many fish for a single 10gallon. For the aggression reason mentioned by @Idoc as well as controlling ammonia. You will fight ammonia in the smaller 10g tanks.

If you suspect brook metroplex is an easy way to treat that. You could use Genral cure which will cover brook as well as deworm the fish of flukes etc.

Copper treatment is a must for me personally with Wrasse. They have such a thick mucus coat that they are wonderful at carrying disease without any visible symptoms like white spots etc.

@HotRocks So this is exactly the root of my question: should I just give all the fish the same treatment even though their symptoms are all different? Also, out of the 3 (metroplex, general cure, copper [which I'd do cupramine + prazipro]) which would you recommend is best for *all* the fish, assuming you do think it's best to give them all the same course of treatment...

 

[HotRocks]

@HotRocks So this is exactly the root of my question: should I just give all the fish the same treatment even though their symptoms are all different? Also, out of the 3 (metroplex, general cure, copper [which I'd do cupramine + prazipro]) which would you recommend is best for *all* the fish, assuming you do think it's best to give them all the same course of treatment...

Definitely treat all fish across the board. Pic a protocol and follow through with it on all your fish. Otherwise you are just going to keep fighting it when you put them all back together in the same tank.

Brook for example is probably being carried by your other fish, it mostly only impacts clowns. Not always the case but for the most part. So you see the symptoms on the clowns. If you only treat the clowns and join them back with fish that were not treated for Brook, they will get re-infected.

 

[hdsoftail1065]

This has probably been metioned sometime today, if it has then I appologize in advance. I went into Petco yesterday and they have their 1$ per gallon going on, if you need to upsize a qt.