Going from 45 gallon to 120 ???

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Hi all,

So I decided to upgrade my 45 cube to a 120!!! Very excited !!!

But not sure where to start???

Can i keep my sand and live rock from the actual tank and i assume i can use some of my water for the new tank? Do i need to start like a complete new tank and let it cycle real slow or if i use things from my actual tank it will be faster?

I can run both tanks for a while if needed !

Thanks in advance!

Isabelle
 
I wouldn't use the sand from the existing setup. It most likely has detritus built up in it and may cause more harm than good. You use a cup or two of the existing sand in the new tank to help seed the new sand. You can use the live rock from the existing tank. I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about how to cycle the new tank and add the livestock.
 
I'm also upgrading to a 120G. I am keeping my 70G up and running but will be moving some stuff over as well, I'll be following this thread also!
 
I recently upgraded from a 70g to 260g so I did a little research on this and can tell you what worked for me. First, I would not reuse the existing sand and would just start over with new sand. Rinsing sand is a pain in the butt and you'll need a bunch more anyway for the larger tank. I had a bad experience with used sand before even though I rinsed the heck out of it with RO so I will never re-use sand again. In the big scheme of things, the cost of the new sand is not that much compared to everything else.

Second, will you be able to keep the existing tank running while you setup your new one? This will most likely impact how you want to do the transfer. If you have any pests or nuisance algaes now is a great time to get rid of all that mess and start fresh.

I was able to keep both tanks running when I did my transfer and took my time doing it. I setup the new tank (leak tested plumbing, installed new equipment, etc), added my additional live rock that had been curing and was "fed" for about 3 months, "fed" the new tank with a cube of mysis and checked the water over the course of a week to make sure I wasn't going to have a cycle, waited another a week to make sure, and then matched all water parameters (salinity, temp, Alk, Ca, Mg) before moving stuff over. I did not acclimate anything to the new tank and everything made it just fine.

If you cannot keep your existing tank running, consider getting a large water trough or two so that you can house your inhabitants temporarily. This will allow you to keep some water circulation going, the heater, and if you plan it right, you can still run your skimmer, keep your live rock wet, and place a light over it for corals and other photosynthetic organisms. That way, you can still have most of your filtration going and won't be in a mad rush to try to set everything up. It always seems like there is something I forgot or needed to tweak on the new tank so the extra time was welcome. Keep some prime or other ammonia lock on hand just in case things do not go as planned in terms of cycling. a 45g to 120g is a pretty big jump.

I would also make sure you have a lot of extra salt water mixed and ready to go. Even if you use some of your existing water, it will be less than you think due to volume loss from the sand bed, rock, etc. You probably won't want to use the last third or so of the water as you get closer to the sand bed and start stirring things up. No matter what happens, it always seems like you need more saltwater than you think. Personally, I would figure maybe 25 gallons of existing water will be reused from the 45 so I would go ahead and have at least a full 120 gallons ready, especially if you are not adding any new rock for now that will take up some volume. If you are getting a bigger sump, don't forget to account for the water you need for the sump. If you have leftover salt water, then just save it for your first or second water change.
 
Going counter to the rest of the folks here, I went from a 40 breeder to a 220. I re-used my rock and sand. The sand I rinsed very well and PUT IT IN THE FUGE of the new tank, not in the display. The reason I felt ok with this is I went bare bottom with the new set up and have a remote deep sand bed so I figured what the heck all the crud I didn't get can help here. I totally agree with not useing it in the display (only a cup or 2 to seed) but I felt good enough with my rinse job that it was ok in the fuge with my sand sifting snails and worms.
 
Yes i can run both tanks so that should help!!!

Ok i will save only a handful of sand for the DT and put a bit in the fuge...

This is so exciting! I had to pass on a few Nice corals because i don't have room for now! It will be nice to have more places in there!

Thanks for the advice ! Should pick it up next weekend!

Isabelle
 
Dont use current sand. You'll stir it up and you'll have a massive algae bloom in new tank. You can definately use the water from existing tank for the new tank. What I've done in the past is over the coarse of a month remove 30-40% of the water in your current tank weekly and put it in the new tank. When you're ready to move everything to new tank use all the water from current tank then make up new saltwater to make up the difference....no cycling needed.
 

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