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I've had the same experience and did exactly what you've done and I'm not looking back. I had 2xmp40's on the back wall & a gyre on each side on the front. Don't get me wrong, the gyre flow is amazing but after 6-8 months post cleaning they seem to disappoint. Cleaning on these are much harder than on Vortech or the wav's due to the fiddling of the pressure fittings. One other thing to mention is that if you do get a gyre, you might see a nitrate spike as it might stir up your substrate. The wav's give me the same amount of flow, full Apex integration (partial with gyre / icecap) and they are a breeze to clean. $0.02 deposited.I always recommended them up until recently. I ran two for almost a year....both stopped working. I was able to replace one of the motors under warranty....the second one is no longer covered. Also it seems like whenever I had to take them apart to clean, it was always a hassle to get them back together and working correctly, without excessive noise. I do recommend the Ice Cap controller though.....makes controlling them much easier than the included controller. I now use the Apex Wavs and absolutely love them.



