Gyre XF330 vs Jump 2K

[yanetterer]

I'm looking to try one of these two powerheads in a 30 breeder I am setting up. I'm more interested in the flow characteristics of each rather than controllability or upgrade paths. The XF330 has flow directors on the top whereas the Jump 2K does not, does this have a considerable effect?

Is the XF330 worth the ~$100 over the 2K? I'm figuring I will need about 1,500 gph so either one would be able to handle that. However, I could run 2x of the Jump 2K on their lowest setting for roughly the same price as one XF330.

The tank will have a few plating and encrusting montiporas near the top, but will mostly be LPS and some softies.

 

[NowGlazeIT]

I hear the Red Sea gyres are easier to clean and more robust. I can say as a owner of maxpect xf350s for the last 2 years, I will not be buying them again. Cleaning and reassembling is no picnic. One wrong move and they become noisy, the water deflectors are delicate and my first pair would not make a solid connection, causing them to fall off periodically.

 

[amoore311]

The jumps, and every other gyre on the market, is the same design as the maxspect gen 1 gyres.

the Red Sea, icecap, etc are all building using maxspects licensed patented gyre pump design.

The newwest spec design is the XF series available direct from maxspect through coralvue.

I prefer the XF series Gyres to just about every pump on the market, you just need to turn off the feature allowing them to run in reverse. Mine are over 2.5 years old and still cranking out crazy amounts of flow in my 220. I clean them every 2 months. Cleaning and reassembly takes easily 1/2 as long as the original spec gyres do.

 

[NowGlazeIT]

I also turned the reverse function off after the first year it became too noisy

 

[SPS2020]

I have both RedSea 45's and Maxspect XF. I don't have experience with the Jump, but was also curious about the difference.

The RedSea are much nicer than my XF (although it is an older model).

 

[SPS2020]

I also turned the reverse function off after the first year it became too noisy

I wondered about that...mine is certainly more noisy in reverse.

 

[yanetterer]

I have both RedSea 45's and Maxspect XF. I don't have experience with the Jump, but was also curious about the difference.

The RedSea are much nicer than my XF (although it is an older model).

Does the Maxspect have the flow deflectors? If so, do you notice much of a difference between it and the RedSea?

I guess I'm really curious if the flow deflector on the top of the XF series offers much of a benefit compared to the "deflectorless" design of the Jump, RedSea, and Jebao. I see that it can be placed closer to the surface as a result, but how much of a benefit is that and does it affect the flow in any other way?

 

[yanetterer]

I hear the Red Sea gyres are easier to clean and more robust. I can say as a owner of maxpect xf350s for the last 2 years, I will not be buying them again. Cleaning and reassembling is no picnic. One wrong move and they become noisy, the water deflectors are delicate and my first pair would not make a solid connection, causing them to fall off periodically.

I've read that they can be a pain to clean. I'm pretty sure a few LFS in my area have some on their tanks that I am hoping I can see in person how difficult they are to maintain. I'll have to give the Red Sea version more consideration.

 

[NowGlazeIT]

I've read that they can be a pain to clean. I'm pretty sure a few LFS in my area have some on their tanks that I am hoping I can see in person how difficult they are to maintain. I'll have to give the Red Sea version more consideration.

The deflectors are nice but they add a delicateness I’m not used to. The part that sucks about the cleaning is when you put it all back together and it starts making a rubbing noise. I think there is just very little room for error on these but the pump breaks down into 7-8 pieces. so margin of error is increased compared to more simplified pumps

 

[pecan2phat]

I think how the flow deflectors were described were that they helped from algae growing on the grates which extended cleaning intervals. All the gyre type pumps can go pretty high up in the tank and the flow itself can be directed since you can turn the grates themselves.

 

[NowGlazeIT]

I think how the flow deflectors were described were that they helped from algae growing on the grates which extended cleaning intervals. All the gyre type pumps can go pretty high up in the tank and the flow itself can be directed since you can turn the grates themselves.

They are pretty efficient at directing. The flow pattern changes from wider, to a more focused spray.

 

[SPS2020]

Does the Maxspect have the flow deflectors? If so, do you notice much of a difference between it and the RedSea?

I guess I'm really curious if the flow deflector on the top of the XF series offers much of a benefit compared to the "deflectorless" design of the Jump, RedSea, and Jebao. I see that it can be placed closer to the surface as a result, but how much of a benefit is that and does it affect the flow in any other way?

Actually, I have aftermarket deflectors for the RedSea, but no deflectors came with the Maxspect gyres.

I have the same results as @NowGlazeIT, the flow pattern changes and is more focused\stronger. This may or may not be advantageous to you. I prefer not to use them at a cost of increased maintenance. I'm pretty good at keeping things clean, so about every two to three weeks, the gyres get a soak in citric acid.

 

[shakacuz]

The jumps, and every other gyre on the market, is the same design as the maxspect gen 1 gyres.

the Red Sea, icecap, etc are all building using maxspects licensed patented gyre pump design.

The newwest spec design is the XF series available direct from maxspect through coralvue.

I prefer the XF series Gyres to just about every pump on the market, you just need to turn off the feature allowing them to run in reverse. Mine are over 2.5 years old and still cranking out crazy amounts of flow in my 220. I clean them every 2 months. Cleaning and reassembly takes easily 1/2 as long as the original spec gyres do.

good to hear.. was looking to buy an xf330.

 

[aSaltyKlown]

I was thinking about picking up a Jump 2k, I noticed that the XF330s are on clearance now for only $6 more at BRS. I've heard good and bad on the 330s. Wondering if anyone has experience with the Jumps and how they might compare. I'm leaning toward the XF330 as I could pick up an ICV6 and use the app for control as well.