Hammer and fog spawn help !

jorge0912 · Mar 5, 2020

my hammer and frog spawn aren’t opening up like they used to they were big pretty and now it looks small anybody can tell my what could be going on...the other hammer looks really good and big and on the frog spawn is only one branch that is not opening up ....
I don’t see any brown jelly or worms that’s be disturbing it
Have not changed lighting flow ... could they all en splitting ? Maybe idk

Calcium 445
All 8.6
Nitrates 4
Salinity 1.025
Magnesium 1320
Here are some pictures of them

webmanny · Mar 5, 2020

Hmmm. looks like an established tank.
Any recent changes to light intensity or duration?
Any swings in ALK? These are very sensitive to alk changes.
Any changes to flow or temp?

Webslinger · Mar 5, 2020

Looks like not enough light. Being shaded from above. Frag it off or let it go. Happens to mine all the time.

jorge0912 · Mar 5, 2020

Yeah it is getting shade but not the hammer

And hmm I did have my alk drop to 6

last week did fix it slowly and no changes in flow or ligths no checked the par and everything is the same par it used to be

jorge0912 · Mar 5, 2020

Yes tank Had been establish for a while

Nicholas Dushynsky · Mar 5, 2020

What are your nitrates and phosphates at? Mine aren't as puffy as they used to be, I'm having to dose phosphates.

resortez · Mar 5, 2020

The mention of alk dropping to 6 would tell me that’s your problem there, especially with euphyllias, they are sensitive to big swings in alk. Any ideas why the big drop? Might want to figure out that problem before it happens again & causes a serious crash. Plus I would recommend to slowly bump alk up to 10. Good luck.

John08007 · Mar 5, 2020

Unless you have a nano tank id suggest getting a cheap doser. Think can pick them up for 60-75 now on amazon. I think this is one of my best additions to my tank, no more worrying about dosing alk, ca, mg anymore. If i bought another id buy a 4-5 head to also dose phyto, iodine, amino's, anything to simplify things

Webslinger · Mar 6, 2020

Just use kalk in your ato and you'll be fine.

John08007 · Mar 6, 2020

True kalk will help, but for long term it will require a lot more water testing and you still need to add mg

Webslinger · Mar 6, 2020

nope, not at all. I don't dose mg or anything. I haven't done a water test in over a year. Just use kalk. and I can't kill the things. Started with 4 heads now have hundreds.

Webslinger · Mar 6, 2020

That mushroom looks like it's fighting with your hammer.

jorge0912 · Mar 6, 2020

I think it was my sps since all the sudden they started growing super fast i think they consumed the calcium fast but fixed by bumping my dosing a bit more ... i check my levels every 3 days to see how everything is with Hannah checkers
And Red Sea test kits

ScottR · Mar 6, 2020

resortez said:
The mention of alk dropping to 6 would tell me that’s your problem there, especially with euphyllias, they are sensitive to big swings in alk. Any ideas why the big drop? Might want to figure out that problem before it happens again & causes a serious crash. Plus I would recommend to slowly bump alk up to 10. Good luck.

Why is alk at 6 a problem?

Webslinger · Mar 6, 2020

LPS are a different animal.

I think he got sps and lps confused.

jorge0912 · Mar 7, 2020

Well I moved the coral a bit more and adjusted my flow down from 40 percent to 30 percent in my mp40s hopefully everything will be happy now haven’t messed with flow since one year ago

My luck as I can’t post my paremters again as my test kits regiments finished

DarthSimon · Mar 7, 2020

Looks like shading to me. Very normal for a head to bail out under these circumstances.

shaggydoo · Mar 8, 2020

Very normal to have lower euphylia heads shrink and die when shaded by growth of heads above it. This happens all the time with my led lighting and I was able to stop this type of growth pattern by supplementing with t5.

Webslinger · Mar 8, 2020

The t5 lighting didn’t fix it .... it is the spread of light of the t5’ because they are much longer and don’t create the same type of shading. Adding another led light fixture would have the same result.

shaggydoo · Mar 8, 2020

Webslinger said:
The t5 lighting didn’t fix it .... it is the spread of light of the t5’ because they are much longer and don’t create the same type of shading. Adding another led light fixture would have the same result.

I don't understand your post, as you state t5 didn't 'fix' it and then explain why t5 can compensate (aka fix) shading from a single point light source.

Anyways, shading from a singular light source (such as led) causes euphylia to grow this way. 'Fixing' it can be accomplished by adding multiple point light sources.