Has Anyone "Target" Dosed Dinos with Hydrogen Peroxide?

[Lord_Mort]

Hi All!

I've been doing a lot of research about battling Dinos and one attractive approach I learned about was dosing Hydrogen Peroxide (3% Food Grade) at a rate of 1ml per 10 gal. Most recommendations say to broadcast it an hour after lights out.

I am wondering about TARGET DOSING. I'd still follow the 1ml per 10g rule but I would like to target the patches on my rocks with a pipette and melt a small portion away each day.

Has anyone done this? What were your results?

Thanks

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi All!

I've been doing a lot of research about battling Dinos and one attractive approach I learned about was dosing Hydrogen Peroxide (3% Food Grade) at a rate of 1ml per 10 gal. Most recommendations say to broadcast it an hour after lights out.

I am wondering about TARGET DOSING. I'd still follow the 1ml per 10g rule but I would like to target the patches on my rocks with a pipette and melt a small portion away each day.

Has anyone done this? What were your results?

Thanks

Peroxide is an oxidizer and not remover. You want to take away light which is their main food source and clean skimmer cup and filters daily to reverse their reproduction capabilities

 

[Lord_Mort]

Peroxide is an oxidizer and not remover.

Could you expand on this please? (Also, the lights have been cut back and shifted to primarily blue)

 

[epidemos82]

There is a good thread here: https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/a-dinoflagellate-treatment-guide.841/

Also a FaceBook group that is helpful: https://www.facebook.com/groups/259474048655429/

 

[vetteguy53081]

Could you expand on this please? (Also, the lights have been cut back and shifted to primarily blue)

You want to outcompete dinos with bacteria. Peroxide will lift the cells during treatment but not stop them

 

[Lord_Mort]

You want to outcompete dinos with bacteria. Peroxide will lift the cells during treatment but not stop them

Gotchya. I have silicate, pods, phyto, and Dr Tim's eco-balance on the way!

 

[Subsea]

Gotchya. I have silicate, pods, phyto, and Dr Tim's eco-balance on the way!

Why silicates?

With respect to dosing peroxide in a reef tank, be careful for your pods & shrmps. Depending on the BOD (biological oxygen demand) of your system will determine the effect of hydrogen peroxide on the system. I used the protocol that you outlined and lost pods in 120G display.

 

[Troylee]

Why silicates?

With respect to dosing peroxide in a reef tank, be careful for your pods & shrmps. Depending on the BOD (biological oxygen demand) of your system will determine the effect of hydrogen peroxide on the system. I used the protocol that you outlined and lost pods in 120G display.

I’d guess to introduce diatoms which will out compete the Dinos it’s a common practice with the battle.

 

[hart24601]

Fwiw I started dosing peroxide after velvet wiped out my tank. Dosing was based on a humblefish thread and I also ran UV.

One side effect I noticed is that my Dino’s completely disappeared for the 1st time in my systems history, over 3 years. I have had ups and downs with Dino’s but even when the DT was clear (generally from UV or aquabiomics rubble) I always had a low level present in the sump (150g Rubbermaid) near my chaeto lit by a kessil h380.

While I don’t recommend anyone dosing peroxide without a lot of research, and mine was for desperation for velvet, I can’t ignore for the 1st time in the system history dinos were eradicated. You can find more details in my build thread, but I can’t discount my observation.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Gotchya. I have silicate, pods, phyto, and Dr Tim's eco-balance on the way!

Silicates for ? Often silicates will promote diatoms. Pods are hit and miss with dino. The method I gave has worked for numerous people without the extras

 

[Lord_Mort]

Silicates for ? Often silicates will promote diatoms. Pods are hit and miss with dino. The method I gave has worked for numerous people without the extras

Yes, silicates to help diatoms so they'll compete. What I have is a 13.5g nano so I do not have a skimmer. I could clean my filters more often but I am trying to raise my Phosphate and Nitrates since the are .04 and 0.0 respectively.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yes, silicates to help diatoms so they'll compete. What I have is a 13.5g nano so I do not have a skimmer. I could clean my filters more often but I am trying to raise my Phosphate and Nitrates since the are .04 and 0.0 respectively.

Phos at .04 acceptable. Nitrates at zero is an issue but through feedings can be raised.

 

[epidemos82]

Yes, the common approach is the increase phosphate and nitrates, increase diversity (pods and phyto), and use daily silicate dosing to cause a diatom bloom. The diatoms are thought to "outcompete" the dinos, but whether that is because of real estate (occupying the sand bed) or nutrients, it doesn't sound like people know. It's explained in the guide on the Macks Facebook page.

 

[Lord_Mort]

Yes, the common approach is the increase phosphate and nitrates, increase diversity (pods and phyto), and use daily silicate dosing to cause a diatom bloom. The diatoms are thought to "outcompete" the dinos, but whether that is because of real estate (occupying the sand bed) or nutrients, it doesn't sound like people know. It's explained in the guide on the Macks Facebook page.

Yes, the Macks Facebook page is what I am following. I've got a nano with no skimmer and no UV. Installing either of these will be challenging so I am trying the diatom/phyto/pod approach first.

 

[Just John]

I am wondering about TARGET DOSING. I'd still follow the 1ml per 10g rule but I would like to target the patches on my rocks with a pipette and melt a small portion away each day.

I have tried target dosing things and even when cold, the h2o2 floats straight up and makes contact for only a second or two.

 

[Lord_Mort]

I have tried target dosing things and even when cold, the h2o2 floats straight up and makes contact for only a second or two.

 

[xabo]

If you can remove the rock from the tank you'll have better results.