Hello...AF from Italy...

Pette · Nov 22, 2017

Hello to all.
I’m from Italy and this is my first message.
This is my tank: 200 lt. DSB (sps 80% and lps 20%) with zeolite reactor, coal in reactor “fluid bed” and skimmer.
Values: Kh 7.7; Ph 8.00-8.2; Ca 420; mg 1290; No2 0; No3 0.1; Po4 0.
I started with the AF method for 2 week by dosing:
+1 +2 +3 (50 ml. per day);
Probio s (2 drops) + NP (2 drops) or Probio f (2 spoons) every day;
Amix, Vitality, Build and Energy 1 drop every two days;
Power food 1 spoon once a week.
Saturday i would start with 10% change water using first time Probio Salt.
Problems: red cyano...
Questions:
do i should use amino acids and vitamins using Probio salt?
did i have start with Bio s for 15 days?
can i use oxydator or h2o2 to remove cyano?
Advices are welcome.
Thank you

Anirban · Nov 22, 2017

Hi, welcome to R2R...

I would suggest to stop using the amino and vitamin right now. Also, dose NP Pro and Pro bios or Pro bio F once a week now. Stop using the power food too. I would suggest not to use probiotic salt but use the reef salt for time being and then once the problem is solved then you can come back to your original routine.
You can use H2O2 or a oxydator too.

reef lover · Nov 22, 2017

Welcome!!

jsker · Nov 22, 2017

Welcome to R2R and the Aquaforest thread
My suggestion would not to dose anything except the salt and 1+2+3 and wait till the cyano is gone. Then introduce the NP pro, and bio s. Wait three week the switch over to the pro bio s and the pro bio F.

This vitamins and power food can be continued.

Look at you phosphates and are you using RO/DI in your auto top off and for water changes?

Pette · Nov 23, 2017

Hoops, doble message...

Pette · Nov 23, 2017

Thank you very much for everyone.
I have to make a clarification because in the initial message I forgot to say one thing: the cyano were already present at the time of switching to AF (they came up with the use of a product of a competing brand and for this I decided to change) and later they did not increase, but did not decrease. In addition, almost unique cases, tend to diminish with light.
h2o2, if I not remember badly with iodine (contained in +123), gives birth to a toxic compound; of this, though, I'm not sure.
For the rest of the protocol, let's see if I understand it well:
1) ProbioReefSalt also contains vitamins and amino acids; so now I do not use it (presence of amino acids); in the future, however, when will I use it I will also need to give Vitality and Aminomix?
2) in my opinion the cyano resist because I have po4 (inorganic) too low as no3 and t5 to change (5 months); so you say that increasing the organic as I did (powerfood and energy) does not solve the problem; this seems right to me;
3) Considering the premise (existing cyano) why not dosing bacteria? Bio s should be used 15-30 days before the ProbioS in association with -NP or ProbioF (alternating)?
Sorry about the length ...
@ jsker: I use RODI water (cond: 0,00; PO4: o; NO3:0); PO4 in the tank: 0,00.

Aquaforest · Nov 23, 2017

Pette said:
Thank you very much for everyone.
I have to make a clarification because in the initial message I forgot to say one thing: the cyano were already present at the time of switching to AF (they came up with the use of a product of a competing brand and for this I decided to change) and later they did not increase, but did not decrease. In addition, almost unique cases, they tends to diminish with light.
h2o2, if I not remember badly, with iodine (contained in +123), gives birth to a toxic compound; of this, though, I'm not sure.
For the rest of the protocol, let's see if I understand it well:
1) ProbioReefSalt also contains vitamins and amino acids; so now I do not use it (presence of amino acids); in the future, however, when will I use it, I will also need to give Vitality and Aminomix?
2) in my opinion the cyano resist because I have po4 (inorganic) too low as no3 and t5 to change (5 months); so you say that increasing the organic as I did (powerfood and energy) does not solve the problem; this seems right to me;
3) Considering the premise (existing cyano) why not dosing bacteria? BioS should be used 15-30 days before the ProbioS in association with -NP or ProbioF (alternating)?
Sorry about the length ...
I use RO/DI water (Cond: 0,00; No3: 0; Po4: 0).
Thank you.

1. Here is video answering on question: Do I need to dose AF Amino Mix and AF Vitality if they are already in salt?

3. You can dose Bio S daily or after water changes.