Help! All algae eater fish dead in one day

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The new two barred rabbitfish died in one day. I'm so frustrated about my current situation. My mixed reef tank has been running for a year. And I am currently winning the battle of dino. I didn't put in any algae eaters in the tank since my last tomini tang and 2 damsels died 5 months ago. I put a new two barred rabbitfish in the tank yesterday and everything was fine and the fish was happy. However, the new rabbitfish was dead this morning like my tomini tang dead over night. All the coral are growing. My coris wrasse, watchman goby and one clownfish are still very happy. Snails hermits or urchin are all alive. My tank parameters:KH 9.5, Ca 490, Mg 1390, PO4 0.05, NO3 4.0.

Please help! I'm afraid of putting any herbivores or omnivores in the tank. They just dead in mystery to me. They must eat something very toxic. All the carnivores are all happy. What should I do?

 

[T-J]

What's your salinity?
Are all the fish that died from the same store?

 

[adword]

Salinity is normal 1.025. Yes, all the fish is from the LFS, but I don't think that's related because my tomini tang was with me for a long time and healthy and suddenly dead over night.

 

[fishguy242]

hi, did the fish eat when you got them ?
@T-J asked the other Q .

 

[adword]

The fish was in the LFS for two weeks and was healthy.

 

[fishguy242]

#fishmedic

 

[AydenLincoln]

Any visible spots or making on the fish? Or rough looking find?

 

[homegrowncichlid]

I'm going to say that same key word that you used "dino", which is a toxin for herbivores. The snails are also direct herbivores of it, but it's possible they can't get to it for whatever reason, but the rabbit fish can, for example, the dinos could be growing on some hair algae, which the snails won't eat anyway. Hermit crabs could be pulling the dinos off the algae they are eating. I'm just hypothesizing. Anyway, wipe the dinos out with a 3 day total black out. Once you do that, 99% of them will be gone, but they can bloom and repopulate your system within a couple of days. I highly recommend Dr Tim's 2 week procedure, which contains detailed, day by day dosing instructions using both Waste Away and Refresh combo. I can now easily control pest algae in my system, but only after understanding its lifecycle. 3 days of black out will knock out most pest algae. After that you'll need some organism to fill the niche and out compete the pest. Dr Tim's 2 products are bacterial plankton products, which cause a bloom in the water column, which can be skimmed out. Other products like Micro bacter 7, may colonize the sand bed or rock and is fundamentally different from Refresh or Waste Away.

I did the 2 week process, 3 times, once each month (for my corals to recover before repeating), till I controlled my dino problem. I have since done it to control cyano and now routinely use it for hair algae.
(Note dino will encyst onto your nets, or any other object you pull out of the water, including dried areas of your exposed piping, or onto dried glass, between the lower and high water lines of your sump. Once I realized this I was able to stop dinos from re infecting my system, by making sure all surfaces where washed down with sea water during the black out period, and making sure the water was at the highest level.
I've also used Dino X, however that interfered with my algae scrubber, so I didn't finish that process. It is a simply a weak herbicide.

Dinos cause Red tide in the oceans, which kill off all fish in the water, it also bio accumulates in shelfish, causing a known disease, Ciguatera Fish Poisoning

 

[adword]

I remember that my Tomini Tang was dying in pale color and at the moment of dying she was shaking so hard I don't even want to remember that moment. And this time when I got up this morning, the new rabbitfish dead already and the color is very pale.

 

[adword]

I'm going to say that same key word that you used "dino", which is a toxin for herbivores. The snails are also direct herbivores of it, but it's possible they can't get to it for whatever reason, but the rabbit fish can, for example, the dinos could be growing on some hair algae, which the snails won't eat anyway. Hermit crabs could be pulling the dinos off the algae they are eating. I'm just hypothesizing. Anyway, wipe the dinos out with a 3 day total black out. Once you do that, 99% of them will be gone, but they can bloom and repopulate your system within a couple of days. I highly recommend Dr Tim's 2 week procedure, which contains detailed, day by day dosing instructions using both Waste Away and Refresh combo. I can now easily control pest algae in my system, but only after understanding its lifecycle. 3 days of black out will knock out most pest algae. After that you'll need some organism to fill the niche and out compete the pest. Dr Tim's 2 products are bacterial plankton products, which cause a bloom in the water column, which can be skimmed out. Other products like Micro bacter 7, may colonize the sand bed or rock and is fundamentally different from Refresh or Waste Away.

Thank you very much for the explanation. I will look into it. I feel sooo bad right now.

 

[paintman]

I'm going to say that same key word that you used "dino", which is a toxin for herbivores. The snails are also direct herbivores of it, but it's possible they can't get to it for whatever reason, but the rabbit fish can, for example, the dinos could be growing on some hair algae, which the snails won't eat anyway. Hermit crabs could be pulling the dinos off the algae they are eating. I'm just hypothesizing. Anyway, wipe the dinos out with a 3 day total black out. Once you do that, 99% of them will be gone, but they can bloom and repopulate your system within a couple of days. I highly recommend Dr Tim's 2 week procedure, which contains detailed, day by day dosing instructions using both Waste Away and Refresh combo. I can now easily control pest algae in my system, but only after understanding its lifecycle. 3 days of black out will knock out most pest algae. After that you'll need some organism to fill the niche and out compete the pest. Dr Tim's 2 products are bacterial plankton products, which cause a bloom in the water column, which can be skimmed out. Other products like Micro bacter 7, may colonize the sand bed or rock and is fundamentally different from Refresh or Waste Away.

I did the 2 week process, 3 times, once each month (for my corals to recover before repeating), till I controlled my dino problem. I have since done it to control cyano and now routinely use it for hair algae.
(Note dino will encyst onto your nets, or any other object you pull out of the water, including dried areas of your exposed piping, or onto dried glass, between the lower and high water lines of your sump. Once I realized this I was able to stop dinos from re infecting my system, by making sure all surfaces where washed down with sea water during the black out period, and making sure the water was at the highest level.
I've also used Dino X, however that interfered with my algae scrubber, so I didn't finish that process. It is a simply a weak herbicide.

Dinos cause Red tide in the oceans, which kill off all fish in the water, it also bio accumulates in shelfish, causing a known disease, Ciguatera Fish Poisoning

Do you have a link to this process????????

 

[homegrowncichlid]

Do you have a link to this process????????

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