HELP. ASAP. TORCH CORAL DYING.

[praba775]

Hi. My torch coral is dying. It was perfect until I added a yellow foxface and a tomini tang. I have seen the yellow foxface slap my torch coral sometimes with its tail.
Tank inhabitants:
Tomini tang x1
Yellow foxface x1
Blue green chromis x3
Cleaner wrasse x1
Electric blue leg hermit crab x2

 

[praba775]

I will do a full water test soon

 

[Dburr1014]

Hi. My torch coral is dying. It was perfect until I added a yellow foxface and a tomini tang. I have seen the yellow foxface slap my torch coral sometimes with its tail.
Tank inhabitants:
Tomini tang x1
Yellow foxface x1
Blue green chromis x3
Cleaner wrasse x1
Electric blue leg hermit crab x2

Then take out the torch or foxface!

 

[praba775]

Then take out the torch or foxface!

What do you mean? You havent given me an explanation or what exactly is happening!!!

 

[Dburr1014]

What do you mean? You havent given me an explanation or what exactly is happening!!!

The fox face is killing a torch, what else is there to know? Remove one or the other to separate them. I can only go by what facts you have given me. You said the fox face was slapping the torch and it looked normal yesterday.

 

[praba775]

The fox face is killing a torch, what else is there to know? Remove one or the other to separate them. I can only go by what facts you have given me. You said the fox face was slapping the torch and it looked normal yesterday.

Yes but is there a way to stop the foxface from doing this

 

[reefer333_]

How long ago was the torch looking "perfect"? From the pic, the torch has no flesh band and must have been dying for a while. IMO, it is nothing to do with the foxface. Healthy torch should have a large flesh band on it base and even if foxface eats the polyps, you will either see the flesh band or you will see bright white skeleton where the flesh band used to be when it was healthy. From your pic, your torch didn't have flesh band for a long time.

 

[Sdoutreefer]

That looks like a fresh frag that did not have time to heal before being sold. You might have gotten swindled… like the post above states, there is no flesh band, which I agree would mean it wasn’t happy before you put it in your tank. The foxface hitting it with its tail once or twice wouldn’t kill it.

Do you have water parameters?

 

[reefer333_]

This is what healthy Torch Flesh should looks like.

This is what torch that suddenly dying/unhappy looks like. The flesh receded quickly and expose bright white skeleton. Your torch has neither. It had been dying/unhappy for a while. Just because tentacles are extending doesn't mean it was healthy.

 

[VintageReefer]

Torch has a flesh band. It can’t grow larger due to the proximity of the splitting branch

Also, certain Indo torches will never grow a large flesh band. I have bananas like this, and have had a recent convo with coral Kai and he confirmed the same happens to him with certain indo torch species

Despite this it seems black and white. The fox face has slapped the torch and seems to have an interest in it. Torches are sensitive and just stress will cause them to polyp bail, minor injuries and cuts can develop brown jelly disease, and looking at the right side of the head, it’s already starting.

Only chance would be to remove either the fish or the torch, dip the torch in antibiotics (Google kfc dip) or lugols in a pinch if you don’t have kfc ingredients, and enclose the torch in a isolation box to prevent future attacks

How big is the tank

 

[VintageReefer]

This is what healthy Torch Flesh should looks like.

This is what torch that suddenly dying/unhappy looks like. The flesh receded quickly and expose bright white skeleton. Your torch has neither. It had been dying/unhappy for a while. Just because tentacles are extending doesn't mean it was healthy.

Not always

One of coral Kai highest end torches

While others in his system

 

[Sdoutreefer]

Not always

One of coral Kai highest end torches

While others in his system

You can still see a predominant flesh band on both of those frags from Kai. They’re also attached and surrounding the skeleton. OPs is not present one bit.

Sorry to argue.

 

[VintageReefer]

You can still see a predominant flesh band on both of those frags from Kai. They’re also attached and surrounding the skeleton. OPs is not present one bit.

Sorry to argue.

Totally ok. Check my zoomed pic in post 10

The branch is a Y that was closely fragged. The flesh band is small and can not go past the middle / inside of the former Y but it’s there

 

[VintageReefer]

Right side - looks completely gone. I assume that’s from irritating slaps causing stress and now the head is damaged, stressed and receding.

If ops aid torch was fine until tang and fox face were added and attacks started…it seems logical that was the cause. Assuming the torch actually was fine the day before

 

[slingfox]

Although it is possible the Tang caused this, it seems very doubtful. I assume this is an issue with the torch you got---it does not look like a healthy specimen---or some issue with your tank. Do you have other torches successfully growing in your tank?

 

[Cichlid Dad]

There's nothing in the post about tank size. I f a fox face has hit the torch enough times to harm it, I would question tank size. Also we don't know age , lights, other coral tank parameters. We have no idea the OP's reefing experience. These things are important to help the OP. We don't even know how long he has had the torch

 

[TangerineSpeedo]

Well large flesh band or not... Back to the original OP's concern.
Personally I think it was a bad frag. I was taught never to frag a splitting head like that. A head needs to grow into its own stem before you frag it. I may be wrong, or there may be some that are successful at it, but that's not what I have been told. That torch may have been dying since it has been cut. Never been able to recover. I don’t think the fox face is to blame, but getting smacked around doesn’t help. I would try a Lugols dip and Manuka honey, isolation box with flow.

 

[praba775]

Basicly my torch coral looked 3 inch big before this happened. Now it is so bad, like 1 or less inch. It was very healthy and big. Two days ago its tentacles was thin but still fully outside. Yesterday little bit close but still seem ok. Today morning still like ok. Today evening almost completely gone

 

[praba775]

My torch coral four days ago. It looked so good

 

[praba775]

This is today. It got so worse.