Help clown goby bumps on body

[Unitylover]

Definitly not lympho

 

[vetteguy53081]

Will keep trying

Improvement
Continue to monitor ammonia and nitrate

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

Trying my best with photos.. have an iPhone 6 that’s struggling

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

Definitly not lympho

Thank you for contributing

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

Bacterial tufts are a thing.

Below is borrowed from Dr. Charlie Gregory: https://www.aquaveterinarian.com

It basically refers to white growths on the fish that are bacterial in nature. They oftentimes start out looking like Ich (or sometimes as small as velvet) and then look more like Lymphocystis nodules as they grow in size. Two ways to distinguish these from Ich trophonts:

1. Bacterial tufts will remain on a fish for > 7 days. Ich trophonts typically disappear within 7 days.
2. Bacterial tufts will protrude outward from the fish, and dangle off and sometimes even get blown by the flow. Ich will appear to be just underthe epithelium (outer skin layer).

Hippo tangs are a good example of fish common to get them. They typically get them after 30 days of copper treatment.

They can be teated with Metronidazole + Kanamycin or just good food and good water quality works just as well.

But yes, I believe we still need some better pics. At the angle taken, you can see what looks like they are protruding, but cannot be 100% sure. Being as brook, ich, velvet and tufts are all a possibility, would much rather have better pics to give a 100% ID, since treatment varies for which one it is.

Thank you!!

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

Does the skin appear to be sloughing off or peeling away anywhere on the fish?

I am looking on my phone now, so hard to tell. It also looks like there may be a little damage on the fin in the last pic. But again, hard to tell on my phone.

@MnFish1 @Jay Hemdal thoughts, if you can look on a larger screen?

It looks as if the ‘lumps’ in question would be able to fall off skin.

although general integrity of skin is good, no sloughing or peeling anywhere there is no ‘lump’

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

Caught him being still

photo bump

 

[Unitylover]

bymp

 

[MnFish1]

Does the skin appear to be sloughing off or peeling away anywhere on the fish?

I am looking on my phone now, so hard to tell. It also looks like there may be a little damage on the fin in the last pic. But again, hard to tell on my phone.

@MnFish1 @Jay Hemdal thoughts, if you can look on a larger screen?

I see a fair bit of lesions on the fins themselves - including on the very edges - of the pectoral fins - seen in the frontal pictures.

 

[Eagle_Steve]

I see a fair bit of lesions on the fins themselves - including on the very edges - of the pectoral fins - seen in the frontal pictures.

OK, so I was not losing my mind on a broken phone screen lol.

@jasonDeReefer88 are there any other fish in the tank with the goby? Or anything in there that could be picking on the fish?

 

[MnFish1]

Definitly not lympho

Can you explain 'why'? I don't want to single you out I don't think you can say that. IMHO - Actually - it could be a number of things. Without a biopsy of one of the lesions, its impossible to say. To me it looks Viral - which lymphocystis is - and looks similar to any number of pictures (though not the typical couple large bumps on the fins). In any case, the treatment is basically the same - maintain clean water, minimize stress, consider as @vetteguy53081 suggested a broad spectrum antibiotic in a hospital tank in case of a bacterial infection

To the OP - no worries about not testing - understand your rationale. I was only making the point that 100 percent water changes may be adding additional stress to the fish (and if overfed - as suggested - lets say the parameters are going wildly up and down - that can also be causal to these types of problems).

 

[Unitylover]

Can you explain 'why'?

In my experience on this website, lypho isnt as numerous, and it usally looks like ich, but larger, and less spots. AKA all white like a fungi

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

OK, so I was not losing my mind on a broken phone screen lol.

@jasonDeReefer88 are there any other fish in the tank with the goby? Or anything in there that could be picking on the fish?

There are four hermits and a large snail, a few corals. No other fish that would be picking on goby.

 

[MnFish1]

In my experience on this website, lypho isnt as numerous, and it usally looks like ich, but larger, and less spots. AKA all white like a fungi

Thanks - I added more to my reply - but here are some pictures of lymphocystis. You're completely correct - it's not entirely typical. But - I don't you can say its 'definitely not'

 

[Unitylover]

I agree that 100% water changes are too much. The biological filter is probably crying right now

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

Can you explain 'why'? I don't want to single you out I don't think you can say that. IMHO - Actually - it could be a number of things. Without a biopsy of one of the lesions, its impossible to say. To me it looks Viral - which lymphocystis is - and looks similar to any number of pictures (though not the typical couple large bumps on the fins). In any case, the treatment is basically the same - maintain clean water, minimize stress, consider as @vetteguy53081 suggested a broad spectrum antibiotic in a hospital tank in case of a bacterial infection

To the OP - no worries about not testing - understand your rationale. I was only making the point that 100 percent water changes may be adding additional stress to the fish (and if overfed - as suggested - lets say the parameters are going wildly up and down - that can also be causal to these types of problems).

Thank you. I’ve had another conversation with my girlfriend and kids about proper feeding and importance of water quality.

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

I agree that 100% water changes are too much. The biological filter is probably crying right now

There’s Pukani and Marco in tank that we’re cooked for a year. I dose MicroBacter7 After each large WC

 

[Unitylover]

Ah, but 100% is high. at most, 50% a week is better

 

[jasonDeReefer88]

Ah, but 100% is high. at most, 50% a week is better

Noted. Haven’t cared for a nano tank before, and I only see tank once a weekish so I was attempting to be cautious. Will def keep it to 50% WC from this point.

just offered goby some Mysis, he gobbled it up without hesitation

 

[MnFish1]

Noted. Haven’t cared for a nano tank before, and I only see tank once a weekish so I was attempting to be cautious. Will def keep it to 50% WC from this point.

just offered goby some Mysis, he gobbled it up without hesitation

This is where testing comes into play. And - IMHO stress is at least in part whats happening here. If your tests are ok - they are ok - with a goby and some snails - you should not have any problem doing the water changes that everyone else does. 2. If you have some sort of 'filtration' - you should not need to add microbacter every week either - most of your bacteria is on surfaces - not in the water. I don't want to sidetrack things - but There are a number of experiments here that suggest that.