Help Clowns not hosting
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bairdimusprime
Bill
clowns are funny like that. if the nem is not their natural host it may never happen.
it took almost two years for my first pair of clowns to "find" their nem.
and after the storm when things settled my new tank was up and running and the new clowns found their nems within minutes.
people say to place a picture of a hosting nem on the glass or keep them in a breeder box together... but i always found it was best to let nature run its course.. less stress that way
it took almost two years for my first pair of clowns to "find" their nem.
and after the storm when things settled my new tank was up and running and the new clowns found their nems within minutes.
people say to place a picture of a hosting nem on the glass or keep them in a breeder box together... but i always found it was best to let nature run its course.. less stress that way
Trex
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FYI, the anemone does the hosting, not the clowns.
What species of clowns? The problem isn't them being tank breed, the problem is usually an "un-natural" combo --- Percs and an E. quadricolor (( BTA )), which doesn't mean it won't happen, but it will just take longer.
As for forcing the clowns to be hosted, (( putting them in a confined space with the anemone )), that is a good way to injury/kill a clown.
What species of clowns? The problem isn't them being tank breed, the problem is usually an "un-natural" combo --- Percs and an E. quadricolor (( BTA )), which doesn't mean it won't happen, but it will just take longer.
As for forcing the clowns to be hosted, (( putting them in a confined space with the anemone )), that is a good way to injury/kill a clown.
bairdimusprime
Bill
also the clowns not taking to the nem is a good thing. the less stress on a new nem the better.
let nature run its course in time you should have the nem hosting its clowns.
as Trex said what species of clowns are they???
let nature run its course in time you should have the nem hosting its clowns.
as Trex said what species of clowns are they???
reid429
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so I'm guessing you have experience first hand with this then and not hear say. I have personally introduced clowns this way for approximately 1 hour and all have hosted with no problems at all
Trex
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Why would I try to force a clown to be hosted when I understand the possible outcomes? I don't have to personally jump off a 10 story building (( with no safety equipment )) to know that it is a bad idea.
I have seen an A. polymnus get stung by an S. haddoni (( a natural combination )) while in the beginning stages of being hosted. In time it was fully hosted, but I can assure you if I had force the two into a hamster ball I would have ended up with an eaten clown.
I stick by my opinion (( and advise )) that forcing a clown to be hosted in a big risk, and has a catch of getting that clown injured and/or killed.
Trex
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They aren't naturally hosted by an E. quadricolor, but happens often in your tanks.
While I recently sold the E. quadricolor, my B&W ocellaris was hosted by it for 2 years --- took about 4 weeks for it to be hosted, if memory serves.
eliramos
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Are they wild or tank raised
Many tank raised clowns just literally don't know better!
I bought two clowns once both from separate tanks the wild clown got spooked and darted for my torch coral, almost immediately the captive bred followed suit.
They really are visual learners from what I have read and if they were born in captivity which more clowns are now, they may never host.
Many tank raised clowns just literally don't know better!
I bought two clowns once both from separate tanks the wild clown got spooked and darted for my torch coral, almost immediately the captive bred followed suit.
They really are visual learners from what I have read and if they were born in captivity which more clowns are now, they may never host.
eliramos
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This may not happen them
You could always tape a picture of clownfish hosting to the outside of the tank
Or find a way to lure them in to the nem
But don't force them into the anemone that's a good way to hurt or even get your clown eaten lol
You could always tape a picture of clownfish hosting to the outside of the tank
Or find a way to lure them in to the nem
But don't force them into the anemone that's a good way to hurt or even get your clown eaten lol
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renato120
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To be honest I dont think they are going to host... They pass thru the anemone, sometimes so close to it, and its like any other corals for them.
They dont know what it is. I have been feeding the anemone with brine shrimp everyday... I squirt
Lot of brine to see if they get closer and touch it. My wrasse does a good job taking the food out of the anemone.. The clowns they just look at it...
The funny thinf is that they love the magnet cleaner that is like an inch away from the anemone..
They dont know what it is. I have been feeding the anemone with brine shrimp everyday... I squirt
Lot of brine to see if they get closer and touch it. My wrasse does a good job taking the food out of the anemone.. The clowns they just look at it...
The funny thinf is that they love the magnet cleaner that is like an inch away from the anemone..
Trex
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Hosting is an instinctual behavior, not a learned one. Also, they find their host anemone by "smell", not by vision. There are chemical ques that the anemone puts out that allows the clown to "smell" it --- that is why they are more attracted to a natural host anemone.
Tank reared has little to no effect on the clowns being hosted. The problem has arisen because the 2 most common species of tank raised clowns are A. ocellaris and A. percula. They are most commonly put in our tanks with an E. quadricolor, which is not a natural host anemone for them. 2 of the shared natural host anemones for them are H. magnifica and S. gigantea, 2 of the harder/est host anemones to keep, so you don't see that combination as often.
Tank reared has little to no effect on the clowns being hosted. The problem has arisen because the 2 most common species of tank raised clowns are A. ocellaris and A. percula. They are most commonly put in our tanks with an E. quadricolor, which is not a natural host anemone for them. 2 of the shared natural host anemones for them are H. magnifica and S. gigantea, 2 of the harder/est host anemones to keep, so you don't see that combination as often.
