help! fragged finger fish dying!!

[Mikeand Mel]

Just fragged giant finger in tank.
Fish listless...rolling over....other corals shut....did water change what should i do ...take out coral

 

[Dramad1]

Run some carbon

 

[Mikeand Mel]

Run some carbon

I'm running carbon now, two fish are dead, should I do another water change?

 

[Livinlocal]

I would run as much carbon as you have. If you have extra, put it in a filter sock or something, but obviously make sure to rinse it well first. You can do another water change, as long as you have enough biofiltration/rock to make up for the loss of beneficial bacteria and such.

 

[Livinlocal]

How big is your tank?
How much carbon are you using?
How large of a water change did you do?

 

[Mikeand Mel]

58g +sump 15 more
filled a phosban 150 reactor with carbon using a maxi jet powerhead
did an original 10 gal water change when i cut coral.
have a 3" hippo
clown
3 green chromis
3 firefish
shrimp

The 3 chromis and firefish are gone
just completed another 10g change

 

[Trickman2]

Pictures are always good, did you notice the coral leaching toxins into the water?

 

[Sea MunnKey]

What's a "giant finger"?

 

[Livinlocal]

What's a "giant finger"?

Most likely referring to a leather based on the description.

 

[tripdad]

Massive water change is the lesser of two evils right now. Yes, they carry a risk but you need to remove the toxins ASAP from the leather.

 

[NewGoby]

as others have mentioned, run carbon - wash carbon until no black (or grey) water runs off the carbon anymore, & a 25-35% water change, remove deceased fish asap, to prevent ammonia spikes.

Leathers release a slimy toxin when cut up & fragged. Never frag them in-tank, if you can't get it out & you have to frag it, due to size or something else, it's best to slowly & gently remove it from the stone it's sitting upon (can be difficult, as any part of the stem that touches stone will, in due time grow attached to the stone, you can get it off the stone by gently pulling at the stem near where it's attached & putting another finger between the stem & stone).

 

[NewGoby]

Massive water change is the lesser of two evils right now. Yes, they carry a risk but you need to remove the toxins ASAP from the leather.

I've personally not yet experienced a leather coral which doesn't leech toxins when fragging, and I've seen multiple video's of people on youtube who are also experiencing the same.
There's always the slime that it releases

 

[tripdad]

I've personally not yet experienced a leather coral which doesn't leech toxins when fragging, and I've seen multiple video's of people on youtube who are also experiencing the same.
There's always the slime that it releases

Perhaps I worded it awkwardly....remove the toxins released by the leather from fragging.

 

[NewGoby]

Perhaps I worded it awkwardly....remove the toxins released by the leather from fragging.

ah just read your post again >< my bad!

 

[Mikeand Mel]

Thanks for the advice everyone!
Clown and hippo good(for now) most other corals open.
How long should I run the carbon?
Odd thing is: I started to slowly pull coral off rock and it started to secrete what looked like powder, not the slime I’ve seen before.
I then cut a good sized piece off.
I think it was with 20min noticed smaller fish listing and floating.
Thought I did due diligence in looking up different opinions on fragging in tank, apparently chose wrong advice.

 

[NewGoby]

I don't think that that's a leather coral, it looks like some kind of Stylophora (SPS).

After some googling i found this: 'Porites Porites' is it's name, and it seems to look roughly the same as your images

https://www.google.com/search?q=Por...-dTfAhWGbVAKHcjMAyEQ_AUIDigB&biw=1920&bih=976

As far as I'am aware, these are not poisonous, or toxic when fragged in-tank.

Edit: At this point I feel like it's Stylophora, or Porites (according to google search results)

#reefsquad

 

[Mikeand Mel]

Whatever it was killed 6 fish in a hurry.
They were in great shape prior.
I never saw anything like it (nor do I ever want to again)!

 

[NewGoby]

Whatever it was killed 6 fish in a hurry.
They were in great shape prior.
I never saw anything like it (nor do I ever want to again)!

the problem is that if it's stylophora or porites, it's non toxic as far as I'am aware, meaning something else killed your fish.
What are your water parameters, did something else fell in, did you change anything else? How did you frag it? Was the thing you fragged it with rusty?

& you can keep carbon running if you'd like, if not I'd keep it in there for atleast a day or two

 

[MTBake]

Run carbon and changing water is the best bet. To dilute the toxins as quickly as possible.

And it looks like a leather coral to me. Porites or stylos are stoney corals. This one is clearly deflated in the last pic the op posted.

 

[NewGoby]

Run carbon and changing water is the best bet. To dilute the toxins as quickly as possible.

And it looks like a leather coral to me. Porites or stylos are stoney corals. This one is clearly deflated in the last pic the op posted.

I disagree, in the first picture the polyps are out & about, in the second they're retracted, giving a deflated look.

Guess that there's only one way to find out ^^

@Mikeand Mel is the coral hard, or soft?