Help help !

Jolene9018 · Dec 2, 2016

melypr1985 said:
This is a pretty solid case of bad advice. Copper should be dosed according to the gallons of the tank not the length. You'll also want to be sure to put the fish in a separate tank with no sand, rocks or other inverts. Do you have any pictures of the remaining fish?

Can't find my fishes . All hidding

4FordFamily · Dec 2, 2016

Oh man this is awful. You can remove copper but it takes a lot of cuprisorb, carbon, GFO, etc and lots of massive water changes. 3 100% water changes over two months will do it if each time you run new carbon and cuprisorb through. A month in between each. I've kept many reef after copper without issue but it's expensive and a lot of work to remove. My reefs have all had copper in them at one point and then for years had vibrant corals and inverts no problem. It's not advisable but at this point you're left with no other way. It's always better to treat in a qt.

Brew12 · Dec 2, 2016

4FordFamily said:
Oh man this is awful. You can remove copper but it takes a lot of cuprisorb, carbon, GFO, etc and lots of massive water changes. 3 100% water changes over two months will do it if each time you run new carbon and cuprisorb through. A month in between each. I've kept many reef after copper without issue but it's expensive and a lot of work to remove. My reefs have all had copper in them at one point and then for years had vibrant corals and inverts no problem. It's not advisable but at this point you're left with no other way. It's always better to treat in a qt.

Thank you for that! I've heard it can be done but didn't have any input from someone doing it successfully.

Brew12 · Dec 2, 2016

Jolene9018 said:

How much did you add and how much water is in your system?

Sorry.. I'm still a little shocked you got such bad advice.

saltyfilmfolks · Dec 2, 2016

4FordFamily said:
Oh man this is awful. You can remove copper but it takes a lot of cuprisorb, carbon, GFO, etc and lots of massive water changes. 3 100% water changes over two months will do it if each time you run new carbon and cuprisorb through. A month in between each. I've kept many reef after copper without issue but it's expensive and a lot of work to remove. My reefs have all had copper in them at one point and then for years had vibrant corals and inverts no problem. It's not advisable but at this point you're left with no other way. It's always better to treat in a qt.

do you know anything about this?
http://www.marinedepot.com/Two_Litt...a-Two_Little_Fishies-TL42260-FIFMCHCR-vi.html
I hav a similar product in the tank.

4FordFamily · Dec 2, 2016

Brew12 said:
Thank you for that! I've heard it can be done but didn't have any input from someone doing it successfully.

I've done it 5 or 6 times successfully over 12 years but certainly concede QT is best every time. Test test and when it shows zero do another 100% water change and replace media anyway.

4FordFamily · Dec 2, 2016

saltyfilmfolks said:
do you know anything about this?
http://www.marinedepot.com/Two_Litt...a-Two_Little_Fishies-TL42260-FIFMCHCR-vi.html
I hav a similar product in the tank.

Never seen or heard of it. Work well to remove copper?

Jolene9018 · Dec 2, 2016

Need to change all the stuffs in the filter too ? I am rushing now to buy lots sea water to wash the whole main tank again. Need to buy live sand / live rock too to restart again. How about the red and white color stuff in the filter? Need to change all too ? Pls advise me . Thanks and appreciated.

Jolene9018 · Dec 2, 2016

Brew12 said:
How much did you add and how much water is in your system?

Sorry.. I'm still a little shocked you got such bad advice.

My tank is 60L so as advise I add 14 drops of copper in the tank. [emoji30]

Brew12 · Dec 2, 2016

Jolene9018 said:
My tank is 60L so as advise I add 14 drops of copper in the tank. [emoji30]

That is actually less then the recommended dose so odds are you didn't harm the fish with the copper.

Do you have the ability to test for ammonia? If I had to guess the copper killed your inverts which caused an ammonia spike.

Jolene9018 · Dec 2, 2016

Brew12 said:
That is actually less then the recommended dose so odds are you didn't harm the fish with the copper.

Do you have the ability to test for ammonia? If I had to guess the copper killed your inverts which caused an ammonia spike.

Fishes dead mostly from the temp tank 1ft. As advise I drop 10 drops on temp tank . Then after the temp tank is stinky as told it's poison inside the temp tank I have been advised again to put all the fishes back to the main tank immediately and pour half dosage of copper. [emoji24] Might cause by stress too.

MmmmBalf · Dec 2, 2016

Jolene9018 said:
My tank is 60L so as advise I add 14 drops of copper in the tank. [emoji30]

Unfortunately you've received much more bad advice than just the copper. Your tank being 60L (16g) was vastly overstocked. In a 60L nano system you should be looking at having a few small fish. The Clown Triggerfish alone is much too big for your tank (even if it was a baby it will quickly outgrow the tank). I don't mean to be sounding negative after such a loss, but we need to get you on the right track for your restart or it will happen all over again and put you off having marine fish, and we wouldn't want that!

As Brew12 said, it's likely ammonia killed the fish, although with that many fish in a small tank they would have quickly been overwhelmed by the Ich.

Do you have anywhere else to go for marine supplies and fish? I wouldn't be returning to that marine farm with the advice they've given you so far. :mad:

Jolene9018 · Dec 2, 2016

MmmmBalf said:
Unfortunately you've received much more bad advice than just the copper. Your tank being 60L (16g) was vastly overstocked. In a 60L nano system you should be looking at having a few small fish. The Clown Triggerfish alone is much too big for your tank (even if it was a baby it will quickly outgrow the tank). I don't mean to be sounding negative after such a loss, but we need to get you on the right track for your restart or it will happen all over again and put you off having marine fish, and we wouldn't want that! As Brew12 said, it's likely ammonia killed the fish, although with that many fish in a small tank they would have quickly been overwhelmed by the Ich.

Do you have anywhere else to go for marine supplies and fish? I wouldn't be returning to that marine farm with the advice they've given you so far. :mad:

Yes I will be going other marine farm. Can advise me - do I need change all stuffs In the filter too ? (white and red color) ? Thanks and appreciated

Brew12 · Dec 2, 2016

Jolene9018 said:
Yes I will be going other marine farm. Can advise me - do I need change all stuffs In the filter too ? (white and red color) ? Thanks and appreciated

I think it would be best. I'm just not familiar with this type of filter to say for sure.

melypr1985 · Dec 2, 2016

Jolene9018 said:
do I need change all stuffs In the filter too ? (white and red color) ?

Can you post a picture of the filter? We arnt' sure what the red and white color is.

Jolene9018 · Dec 2, 2016

If I am not wrong it's call bio-ring.

Jolene9018 · Dec 3, 2016

Bought these and hope it will work well to remove all copper in my 2ft and 1ft tank

melypr1985 · Dec 3, 2016

Jolene9018 said:
Bought these and hope it will work well to remove all copper in my 2ft and 1ft tank

good luck sweetie and keep us posted.

GHsaltie · Dec 3, 2016

Following along and hoping for the best. I'm cringing inside at all the bad advice those people gave you. Good luck

Humblefish · Dec 3, 2016

Cuprisorb will work to remove copper, but a poly filter would be a better option. So long as the poly filter remains blue you know copper is still present in the water; once it turns white you should be good to go. Of course, you will need to run the poly filter for months to ensure all the copper absorbed by the rocks/sand has all leached back out into the water.