Unitylover
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He has white spots on his body, more pica later.
HELP ICH OR VELVET
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SlugSnorter
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I need a description of symptoms
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could maybe be brook
and are you sure your tank is cycled? that rock is bare! could be from poor ph or high ammonia, give me params please
velvet - swimming into the flow of a powerhead or wavemaker
both - tiny white dots on the fins & body. The white dots on velvet can look similar to ich, but are smaller and usually far more numerous.
both - Fish is lethargic
both - Scratching body against hard objects, twitching, jagged movment, etc
could be brook - heavy breathing
brook - lots of slime
late ich and velvet, brook - skin peeling
velvet, brook - not eating
The difference between ich & velvet
Many people have a hard time telling the difference between ich & velvet, or incorrectly assume all "white spots" are ich. Below are some pics of a Hippo Tang - the first one has ich, the next 4 show velvet. Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) - Oval shaped white dots, can usually be counted. These...
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could maybe be brook
and are you sure your tank is cycled? that rock is bare! could be from poor ph or high ammonia, give me params please
velvet - swimming into the flow of a powerhead or wavemaker
both - tiny white dots on the fins & body. The white dots on velvet can look similar to ich, but are smaller and usually far more numerous.
both - Fish is lethargic
both - Scratching body against hard objects, twitching, jagged movment, etc
could be brook - heavy breathing
brook - lots of slime
late ich and velvet, brook - skin peeling
velvet, brook - not eating
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Unitylover
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its not brook as their body doesnt look powdery, There are only a few spots, so not velvet, i dont have a power head or wavemaker, they act like they usally doI need a description of symptoms
The difference between ich & velvet
Many people have a hard time telling the difference between ich & velvet, or incorrectly assume all "white spots" are ich. Below are some pics of a Hippo Tang - the first one has ich, the next 4 show velvet. Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) - Oval shaped white dots, can usually be counted. These...
could maybe be brook
and are you sure your tank is cycled? that rock is bare! could be from poor ph or high ammonia, give me params please
velvet - swimming into the flow of a powerhead or wavemaker
both - tiny white dots on the fins & body. The white dots on velvet can look similar to ich, but are smaller and usually far more numerous.
both - Fish is lethargic
both - Scratching body against hard objects, twitching, jagged movment, etc
could be brook - heavy breathing
brook - lots of slime
late ich and velvet, brook - skin peeling
velvet, brook - not eating
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Unitylover
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I also just saw spots last night, mainly on the fins, so it seems like early ichHe has white spots on his body, more pica later.
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Unitylover
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It is cycled as before I put any fish in, when I tested, it showed 0ppm ammonia, 0ppm nitrite, 20ppm nitrate.
SlugSnorter
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most likely yes, do you have a QT tank?
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Unitylover
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no, i dont have space, but they are the only fish in the tank, so can I use super ick cure?
I have 2 clownfish, both with early ick.
(I also have a hermit but he should be fine)
SlugSnorter
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that stuff is BS, but I happen to have gone down the looking into treating ich "reef safe" style rabbit hole, itll be work, and its more expensive, not as thorough as fallow and QT but it goes like this:
Full course of metroplex w focus in food, (3 weeks) and during that 8 weeks of kick ich, its not a 100% guarantee but its the best shot youve got with reef safe treatment. Keep an airstone, prime and some bacteria starters on hand too.
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Unitylover
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ive used it to cure my sister's goldfish and it worked, and my tank is currently a fowlr
(Im also broke as hell from setup)
(AND i just payed 20 bucks for salt)
SlugSnorter
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dosing copper means your tank cannot have inverts or corals basically forever more-so in saltwater as inverts here are way more sensitive to it, also fresh and marine ich is different, in addition, ich can be "cured" but will still remain in a tank unless the tank is brought through fallow or a dose of copper (or in this case, an attempt at doing it with "anti ich meds") is maintained for an extended period,
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Unitylover
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wait super ich cure has copper?!
SlugSnorter
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yes, id recommend other products if your going with copper, api is notorious for being... not amazing to put it lightly
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Unitylover
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Its fine with chemicals, but their food is pretty garbage, costs more than omega one, half as effective.
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Unitylover
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Theres also a huge problem, I did a half dose last night, with my hermit in there
(he is still alive)
(he is still alive)
SlugSnorter
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meh, theres a reason most don't use it, regardless, the treatment I listed Is the most effective "reef safe" treatment ive heard of, although QT and fallow is almost always better
SlugSnorter
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might be best to do a decent sized WC, and begin other treatments although now idk how the other meds will react with the quick cureTheres also a huge problem, I did a half dose last night, with my hermit in there
(he is still alive)
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Unitylover
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SlugSnorter
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Water Change
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Unitylover
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oh ye ill do that
