Help me with this cycle please

[Reefing_addiction]

Ok so I am trying to cycle some rocks
But I’m not sure what’s going on
I know from all my readings cycles don’t stall
maybe it did cycle?


But I don’t know what’s going on
Please don’t judge me for the api
After the second ammonia test I changed water (say 75%)

I ghost fed the rocks at the beginning
I have been adding seed bacteria for the last 7 days and microbacter7 for the last 3 days
I need to make sure that these rocks are safe for my tank that is stocked.
Has it cycled?
I also added rocks from my tank
LFS stated
Nh3 - 1.2
No2 - .8
Salinity 1.026
No3 10
Ph 7.9
Dkh- 10.9

left 2ndtest after water change (not same day as water change) right before waterchange

3rd test

4test

 

[brandon429]

Nice job, I can see lightening of the api from a darkened prior.

post pics so we can see the # of live rock added the rock from a tank is very powerful in uptaking ammonia; likely faster than the bottle bac. You’ve added bottle bac tested to be ready in a few days from Dr Reefs work. Factors are supporting nearing completion, let’s see the picture to see ratios in play


api showing a motion down is still handy to see. It’s api at total zero that is unreliable.


**did you add the liquid ammonia until the kit changed colors or was it a pre measured number of ammonia drops relative to volume

 

[Reefing_addiction]

Nice job, I can see lightening of the api from a darkened prior.

post pics so we can see the # of live rock added the rock from a tank is very powerful in uptaking ammonia; likely faster than the bottle bac. You’ve added bottle bac tested to be ready in a few days from Dr Reefs work. Factors are supporting nearing completion, let’s see the picture to see ratios in play

 

[Reefing_addiction]

Nice job, I can see lightening of the api from a darkened prior.

post pics so we can see the # of live rock added the rock from a tank is very powerful in uptaking ammonia; likely faster than the bottle bac. You’ve added bottle bac tested to be ready in a few days from Dr Reefs work. Factors are supporting nearing completion, let’s see the picture to see ratios in play


api showing a motion down is still handy to see. It’s api at total zero that is unreliable.


**did you add the liquid ammonia until the kit changed colors or was it a pre measured number of ammonia drops relative to volume

I read on one of these threads sometimes it’s best to do a water change and recheck
I’m trying to do my best by reading first and asking questions when I am stumped

 

[brandon429]

Nice


in a system using that much cured rock you can expect the other surfaces to take on bac by mere association within 20 days tested by Tuffloud. That you’ve boosted with bottle bac, I claim your outcome is this: ten days total mix any surface in that tank will pass light oxidation testing on its own. The use of live rock allows for instant bioload carry, it won’t matter if you wait or not.


if it was my reef using that live dry blend, Id change water for clear/ less algae feed and just begin lightly. Some cuc, couple easy corals. That’s basically anyone’s nano reef plus the dry rocks which aren’t hurting anything. I know people who raise a thousand dollars of corals on that much live rock, me. In a tiny reef


api alone doesn’t determine your cycle status, the complete picture determines it. How a bunch of mixed ammonia water reads on api is a small fraction of the big picture. Even if you had seneye to track nh3 that live rock masks what the other portions are doing, it would pass for initial ammonia control not at 2 ppm but some reasonable amount.

 

[Reefing_addiction]

Nice


in a system using that much cured rock you can expect the other surfaces to take on bac by mere association within 20 days tested by Tuffloud. That you’ve boosted with bottle bac, I claim your outcome is this: ten days total mix any surface in that tank will pass light oxidation testing on its own. The use of live rock allows for instant bioload carry, it won’t matter if you wait or not.

Ok so than I’m good to go?
I think I’m going to leave some of my live rock that’s already in my tank in there so I hope that will help.

I do have one of those ammonia monitors in my dt. Should I just monitor the tank?

 

[Reefing_addiction]

Nice


in a system using that much cured rock you can expect the other surfaces to take on bac by mere association within 20 days tested by Tuffloud. That you’ve boosted with bottle bac, I claim your outcome is this: ten days total mix any surface in that tank will pass light oxidation testing on its own. The use of live rock allows for instant bioload carry, it won’t matter if you wait or not.


if it was my reef using that live dry blend, Id change water for clear/ less algae feed and just begin lightly. Some cuc, couple easy corals. That’s basically anyone’s nano reef plus the dry rocks which aren’t hurting anything. I know people who raise a thousand dollars of corals on that much live rock, me. In a tiny reef


api alone doesn’t determine your cycle status, the complete picture determines it. How a bunch of mixed ammonia water reads on api is a small fraction of the big picture. Even if you had seneye to track nh3 that live rock masks what the other portions are doing, it would pass for initial ammonia control not at 2 ppm but some reasonable amount.

My dt is up and running. Has fish and corals and the entire crew!
I just don’t like my current aquascape and was switching it up. These rocks have been cycling for 10 days minimum

 

[brandon429]

you can actually begin, within reason


the amount of live rock in your hand is equivalent to my whole pico reef and it handles major bioload if requested.

don’t add three tangs, but set up what you want to reef in and add some cuc, light corals, now if you want. It will simply run because a few pounds of lr runs massive bioload we wouldn’t expect. It’s nicely cured


if you don’t have your reef ready, then simply let that bucket stew for ten days and change the water. What your non seneye tests say won’t factor, it’ll all be done by then
There’s a lot of ammonia to process on that sample, after a water change any reasonable bioload will not over produce it.

* update I see it’s all been together ten days, it’s usable. use it for a new tank and we will track your outcome in cycle skip threads. The bottle bac you added plus feed has sped up the transmission time to a few days, you just have testers that dont work well for low level assessments. In clean water those rocks will keep ammonia from rising.

 

[Reefing_addiction]

you can actually begin, within reason


the amount of live rock in your hand is equivalent to my whole pico reef and it handles major bioload if requested.

don’t add three tangs, but set up what you want to reef in and add some cuc, light corals, now if you want. It will simply run because a few pounds of lr runs massive bioload we wouldn’t expect. It’s nicely cured


if you don’t have your reef ready, then simply let that bucket stew for ten days and change the water. What your non seneye tests say won’t factor, it’ll all be done by then


* update I see it’s all been together ten days, it’s usable. use it for a new tank and we will track your outcome in cycle skip threads

This rock is going in this tank

 

[Reefing_addiction]

My recent photo lol

My nem moved when I upgraded my lights but he is still in there hiding in the shadows

 

[brandon429]

Hey are you swapping out rocks, or adding to that established tank was curious

if you are swapping these new rocks are certainly able to run that tank. Added to, especially able since the current system handles it just fine, the sandbed is massive surface area

 

[Reefing_addiction]

Hey are you swapping out rocks, or adding to that established tank was curious

if you are swapping these new rocks are certainly able to run that tank. Added to, especially able since the current system handles it just fine, the sandbed is massive surface area

Removing some and adding to it

 

[Reefing_addiction]

@brandon429
Any idea what is up with this nem

 

[brandon429]

No but it looks a little chem or physically irritated as mesenteries are in the center, repelling or digestive gear that is


i bet it just goes back to normal one day, anemones and mushroom corals will do that from time to time

 

[Reefing_addiction]

No but it looks a little chem or physically irritated as mesenteries are in the center, repelling or digestive gear that is


i bet it just goes back to normal one day, anemones and mushroom corals will do that from time to time

I think he likes to freak me out honestly

He was fine this morning
Just the first time I picked up his rock and really looked at him be I was gonna do my rearranging. I guess I’ll wait till tomorrow don’t want to stress him out while he doesn’t feel good

Last night my female clown was sleeping on him in him aswell

 

[Reefing_addiction]

@brandon429

 

[brandon429]

Should also add that me typing cycles dont stall in prior threads isn’t endorsed by anyone here as scientific fact... it’s a rather new rogue claim lol.

but I still believe it firmly and can demo it with work thread examples.

that doesn’t mean everyone agrees...there is a gamut of critical thinkers that new claims have to pass through, for now it’s just some internet dude bucking conventional rules.

Of course any initial cycle has a time there are no bac and then a time the surfaces are coated, there are days wait involved agreed.


my only tweak to the old rule set is that cycling charts dont vary for a reason; they’re all about 35 days long because the slowest cycles take that long at most, and the fastest cycles are live rock transfer skip cycles which have zero ramp up need (ammonia control instantly not eight days like on all cycling charts)


todays cycling science needs to reflect the specific nature of every cycle vs deeming them stalled because api said so. cycles don’t miss the deadline associated with the types of boosters we use.

the sandbed here handles that bioload alone, it will mask your live rock swap like the live rock masks the dry rock top setup, that’s a lot of masking man pun intended

 

[Reefing_addiction]

Should also add that me typing cycles dont stall in prior threads isn’t endorsed by anyone here as scientific fact... it’s a rather new rogue claim lol.

but I still believe it firmly and can demo it with work thread examples.

that doesn’t mean everyone agrees...there is a gamut of critical thinkers that new claims have to pass through, for now it’s just some internet dude bucking conventional rules.

Of course any initial cycle has a time there are no bac and then a time the surfaces are coated, there are days wait involved agreed.


my only tweak to the old rule set is that cycling charts dont vary for a reason; they’re all about 35 days long because the slowest cycles take that long at most, and the fastest cycles are live rock transfer skip cycles which have zero ramp up need (ammonia control instantly not eight days like on all cycling charts)


todays cycling science needs to reflect the specific nature of every cycle vs deeming them stalled because api said so. cycles don’t miss the deadline associated with the types of boosters we use.

the sandbed here handles that bioload

alone, it will mask your live rock swap like the live rock masks the dry rock top setup, that’s a lot of masking man pun intended

I think your on to the cycles don’t stall and I believe we may miss the. Cycle or due to api being stupid and most people new to this whole thing but api because of it cheapness (me included) not realize how off the test can be.
With the amount of money new hobbies are willing to spend on everything else I don’t know why we go cheap on the one thing we shouldn’t!

Now to figure out how to make my nem move