HELP! New fish just came, QT emergency

[Big G]

Yes i do! Great idea!! Thanks!!! Ordering masstick in the mean time.

Sometimes works great to shred the nori.

 

[Arsenix2001]

Ionic copper like Cupramine & Brightwells can be a bit tougher on dwarf angels than "chelated" copper like Copper Power or Coppersafe.
The trick to dosing with either but especially with Cupramine is to ignore the directions on the bottle. Dosing two big doses can be problematic for fish.
Better to do this:
1. Measure the actual water capacity of your tank. There are online tank calculators that can help, but it's better if you actually measure the tank's liquid capacity. This way you will know the actual water capacity of your tank. Most tanks are NOT the size they are labeled. Often under size which can be a problem.
2. Once you know the actual liquid capacity, calculate out the total number of "drops" of Cupramine to get to therapeutic. Then spread out the dosing to get to therapeutic over 5-7 days. Small doses in the AM, lunch, PM, allows you the luxury of watching for a copper sensitive fish before damage is done. Drops per gallon of tank water is approx. 4 drops. But test, test, test as you get close to the calculated amount needed for therapeutic level of 0.50 for saltwater tanks.
Best is to use a Hanna HL Copper Checker. Those color matching test kits are horrible for accuracy. Way too easy to under/over dose trying to match those colors.

Thank you so much for this info. I have never dosed before. I just flipped some orders around and picked up a hanna copper checker and a bottle of copper power. Will go that route instead and hang onto the cupramine.

Is the prazi pro relatively safe?

 

[Flippers4pups]

Sometimes works great to shred the nori.

I Clip mine into little pieces and soak with some LRS. All my fish eat it.

 

[Arsenix2001]

Assuming this is ok? I strapped on a nickle sized piece.

 

[Big G]

I Clip mine into little pieces and soak with some LRS. All my fish eat it.

Don, sometimes I think the big pieces flapping around actually scare the smaller fish LOL

 

[Big G]

Thank you so much for this info. I have never dosed before. I just flipped some orders around and picked up a hanna copper checker and a bottle of copper power. Will go that route instead and hang onto the cupramine.

Is the prazi pro relatively safe?

Very popular product for treating flukes. Need to add O2 as Prazipro contains a chemical, Oxybispropanol, that absorbs/uses O2 to the point that some fish are effected. A powerhead aimed up at the surface so it is actively rippling the water's surface works very well.

 

[Flippers4pups]

Don, sometimes I think the big pieces flapping around actually scare the smaller fish LOL

I've noticed that.

 

[Arsenix2001]

Well he/she like its "hidey pipes" and went after the nori right away pecking at it 7-8 times. Left then came back again. Sure it needs to soften a bit. Thanks again for all you guys help

 

[fishguy242]

great job guys all..lot to be learned here like reading a books over decades,thanks all,, @Arsenix2001 ,best wishes,keep updated

 

[Arsenix2001]

great job guys all..lot to be learned here like reading a books over decades,thanks all,, @Arsenix2001 ,best wishes,keep updated

Very true, and will do! Happy 4th of July weekend!

 

[Arsenix2001]

BigG,

One question, should I remove these live rock fragments when I start dosing the copper and parasitic medication. Will they permanently absorb the chemicals or can they be rinsed and dried out for frag plugs later?

 

[Big G]

BigG,

One question, should I remove these live rock fragments when I start dosing the copper and parasitic medication. Will they permanently absorb the chemicals or can they be rinsed and dried out for frag plugs later?

I usually toss any absorbent materials like rock after treatment in copper. It's very difficult to remove copper from rock.

 

[Arsenix2001]

Just an update, dosed first round of prazipro today. I think he has scale damage. I ordered metroplex and kanaplex I was thinking of doing before copper. Not sure. At least he is eating now. Gobbles down nori every day and is now readily eating mysis and flake. Seems very curious and friendly.

 

[Arsenix2001]

@Big G The angel is doing fantastic as far as quarantine goes. One heck of a healthy appetite now. Ive done one round prazi, do you recomend two? Never noticed anything coming out of him after the initial treatment. The gashes on him do seem to be more consistent with an abrasion injury. I have metroplex and kanaplex coming in Thursday just to keep on hand, should I treat with those together and then follow with coppersafe?

 

[fishguy242]

following ,cool good to hear!!

 

[Big G]

@Big G The angel is doing fantastic as far as quarantine goes. One heck of a healthy appetite now. Ive done one round prazi, do you recomend two? Never noticed anything coming out of him after the initial treatment. The gashes on him do seem to be more consistent with an abrasion injury. I have metroplex and kanaplex coming in Thursday just to keep on hand, should I treat with those together and then follow with coppersafe?

A 25% water change and second dose 5-7 days after the first dose covers any eggs the worms may have laid.

 

[Arsenix2001]

He guys, the gash on his side seems to be changing, almost swelling out or getting bigger. Its definitely protruding a bit. Should I start the metroplex and kanaplex as soon as it comes tomorrow and wait on a second round of prazipro? Not sure what to do here

 

[Arsenix2001]

I can see a tiny bit of pinkness in the wound now too

 

[fishguy242]

hang tight wait for the doctors ,they will come

 

[Big G]

Changing from white to pink can be a symptom of bacterial infection. Best to treat with antibiotics. Kanaplex works well on treating external infections; metro works well on treating internal issues. For a wider coverage of bacterial treatments can add Kanaplex + Metro + Furan2 which we call the Trifecta.