Help! Ray injured herself

[fishguy242]

may be better to keep lights off hopefully he will swim around and not bury in sand ,that may not be good ,sand and bacteria in the open wound,thoughts on this anybody?

 

[fishguy242]

i would not feed yet ,i would hold off wait for expert opinion on treatment ,that way will be hungry if meds are to be added to food

 

[TvanB1]

i would not feed yet ,i would hold off wait for expert opinion on treatment ,that way will be hungry if meds are to be added to food

Antibiotics and anti fungal medications are typically administered into the water column rather than orally.
IMO the worst situation would be if the fish stopped eating entirely, so it would be best not to ‘starve’ it in the meantime.

EDIT - Intramuscular injection (of antibiotics) would also be applicable to a fish of this size.

 

[fishguy242]

Antibiotics and anti fungal medications are typically administered into the water column rather than orally.
IMO the worst situation would be if the fish stopped eating entirely, so it would be best not to ‘starve’ it in the meantime.

agree ,but should have a dr here within a few hrs, @Jay Hemdal

 

[Abrar]

Also, keeping the water clean will help prevent infection. It also helps that you are running UV. What is the wattage on the UV unit?

Depending on what you currently feed, it wouldn’t hurt to add some extra HUFAs and vitamins to it’s diet.

What type of vitamins? Human ones?
I feed him squid and clams
Doesn't like shrimp

 

[fishguy242]

What type of vitamins? Human ones?
I feed him squid and clams
Doesn't like shrimp

personally i would wait for experts before doing anything prob within 3-4 hours it is 02;00 here what time is it there?

 

[fishguy242]

i just googled every combo i could think of for injury ...nothing

 

[Abrar]

personally i would wait for experts before doing anything prob within 3-4 hours it is 02;00 here what time is it there?

3pm here

 

[Abrar]

i just googled every combo i could think of for injury ...nothing

Yeah all the results lead to the stingray stinging the human

 

[fishguy242]

Yeah all the results lead to the stingray stinging the human

yes exactly ,help will be here soon no worries ,i'm heading to bed for a few hours ,you will see dr's by then

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

How long have you had the ray? I’ve NEVER seen an accidental injury on a ray, they won’t injure themselves on something, they live in sand areas adjacent to reefs. All of the injuries I see are either infections that resemble injuries or are caused by bites from another fish, often when going after the same food item. I would suspect the snowflake first, then the puffer.
Jay

 

[Abrar]

How long have you had the ray? I’ve NEVER seen an accidental injury on a ray, they won’t injure themselves on something, they live in sand areas adjacent to reefs. All of the injuries I see are either infections that resemble injuries or are caused by bites from another fish, often when going after the same food item. I would suspect the snowflake first, then the puffer.
Jay

Had it for 8 months
The snowflake is tiny so are the puffers so it's feels unlikely
But hypothetically speaking if it was the eel

Wil the ray be able to heal itself?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Had it for 8 months
The snowflake is tiny so are the puffers so it's feels unlikely
But hypothetically speaking if it was the eel

Wil the ray be able to heal itself?

Rays typically heal well without intervention. Watch for increased redness, or the lesion growing larger. Those are both signs of infection. Trouble is, treating rays with antibiotics is best done by injection, or with oral meds, not in the water.
Jay

 

[chipmunkofdoom2]

Great advice from Jay above. +1 on monitoring, but leaving it alone. I work with Atlantic rays at the National Aquarium in Baltimore. Our rays get into scuffles sometimes and some end up with bites. They heal pretty well on their own if the aggression is managed. Agreed with keeping an eye on the eel and trigger. If there isn't any sharp rockwork, the rays are unlikely to injure themselves.

+1 on the treatment methods too. We've had to administer oral meds and do injections and as you'd guess they hate both. Our rays are pretty good at sensing when we hide meds in their food and refuse to eat. They also don't care for being being netted and stuck with needles.

 

[Abrar]

Rays typically heal well without intervention. Watch for increased redness, or the lesion growing larger. Those are both signs of infection. Trouble is, treating rays with antibiotics is best done by injection, or with oral meds, not in the water.
Jay

If it does come to that
What's meds should be fed or injected

 

[fishguy242]

hi,i'm back planning on learning something herehow is she doing ,?

 

[Abrar]

hi,i'm back planning on learning something herehow is she doing ,?

So far nothing to bad it seems like
When I stuck my hand in the tank to remove some small rocks she came out if the sand and started nudging my arm and trying to bite it like usual

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

If it does come to that
What's meds should be fed or injected

Since there is no way to know which antibiotics would affect the bacteria (no ability to do a sensitivity study) you just need to pick a broad spectrum gram negative antibiotic. I've had pretty good success with oxytetracycline, injected IM at a rate of 25-50 mg per kg of fish weight one time. However, this is really something a veterinarian should do, and I have to tell you - the ONLY cases I know of where a person has been stung by their stingray in an aquarium have all involved handling the fish - very dangerous!

Jay

 

[fishguy242]

well thanks to all helping w this,i truly hope you have lead on a veterinarian ,that is willing to make a house call and do this for her please keep us posted,good or badbest wishes