Help sailfin diagnosis/disease ID

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Please help with an id of the disease the sailfin is breathing faster than normal and I have seen it try to rub against the rabbitfish I have as well, no other fish exhibit any symptoms

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Please help with an id of the disease the sailfin is breathing faster than normal and I have seen it try to rub against the rabbitfish I have as well, no other fish exhibit any symptoms

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Fish appears to have velvet. Some things you will notice to confirm are fish will scratch body against hard objects, lethargic behavior, Loss of appetite and weight loss, Rapid, labored breathing, Fins clamped against the body, and typically stay at the surface of the water, or remain in a position where a steady flow of water is present in the aquarium.
As the disease progresses outwards from the gills, the cysts then become visible on the fins and body. Although these cysts may appear as tiny white dots the size of a grain of salt, like the first sign of Saltwater Ich or White Spot Disease, what sets Oodinium apart from other types of ich is that at this point the fish have the appearance of being coated with what looks like a whitish or tan to golden colored, velvet-like film, thus the name Velvet Disease.
Remove fish from main tank and place them into a QT with vigorous aeration provided. Treat the fish in the QT with a copper-based medication. Although many remedies contain the general name as ich or ick treatments, read the box to be sure it targets Oodinium. My choice is treating with Coppersafe or Copper Power at therapeutic level 2.25-2.5 For a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off
A quarantine tank can be as simple as a tank from a second hand store or a starter kit from Walmart which most of the needed essentials.
 
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I'd guess Velvet is a high possibility on this.
 
Ok so another question can sharks and rays get velvet?
 
Ok so another question can sharks and rays get velvet?
Sharks and rays are more resistant to velvet due to their unique immune system but can get it but are more susceptible to bacterial issues, viral and blood issues known as Septicemia.
They also treat differently as many meds are toxic to them. If you suspect issues, safest med is General cure and Ruby Rally Pro at 80% of dosage requirement
 
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The pictures aren’t really clear enough to diagnose between chronic ich or velvet. One diagnostic would be - is the tang still eating? If so, then it is ich. If not, it is more likely velvet. Either way, the treatment of choice would be Coppersafe at 2.5 ppm ASAP (no invertebrates present of course).
Sharks and rays get velvet, but don’t typically get ich. Some rays don’t tolerate coppersafe, so you might need to try treating them with chloroquine.

Jay
 

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