HELP, Torch coral bleaching

[GuilhermeLba]

I need help, I think that my torch (torch puple - krypto heart) is not handling too much light, I cant say how much par he is getting, but I already lowed the intensity of my light, its a maxspect jump mjl165, and its is on acclimation mode for 14 days, starting on 10%. Should it be enough for the torch to recover? Or should I put more day on acclimation or simply give up on that place for him? Really dont have any other place on the tank for it... help me please, considering that I might not be able to put him in another place. I got green torch, right beside it, doing fantastic.

(He is opening n fully extending even with the bleaching..)

 

[attiland]

Not sure if i can answer the bleaching question but as an observation your coral placement is no good in long run anyway.
that torch will soon kill the nearby corals if you keep it there and those 2 hammers will have not enough space there too.

 

[GuilhermeLba]

Not sure if i can answer the bleaching question but as an observation your coral placement is no good in long run anyway.
that torch will soon kill the nearby corals if you keep it there and those 2 hammers will have not enough space there too.

Do u think so? They r not that close tough.

 

[madlos123]

Just lower your light intensity until your torch looks happy and leave it there to adjust. Your other corals might look extended due to the lower light. They will be fine, corals can last a lot longer in low light. You can start increasing your light by 5 - 10% per month until your max comfort. Check your nutrients too. Too much light with high alk with low nitrates and phosphates can cause that pale look. I had it before.
In my experience they'll be fine for the tentacles for the torch and hammer touching just not the flesh on the skeleton. You might have to trim or frag them once they get bigger in the future to make some space but they are fine for now.

 

[GuilhermeLba]

Just lower your light intensity until your torch looks happy and leave it there to adjust. Your other corals might look extended due to the lower light. They will be fine, corals can last a lot longer in low light. You can start increasing your light by 5 - 10% per month until your max comfort. Check your nutrients too. Too much light with high alk with low nitrates and phosphates can cause that pale look. I had it before.
In my experience they'll be fine for the tentacles for the torch and hammer touching just not the flesh on the skeleton. You might have to trim or frag them once they get bigger in the future to make some space but they are fine for now.

Awesome, great to know. So do u think that my lights on acclimation mode of 14 days starting on 10% and slowing increasing is too little for it to adapt and recover? And if I choose to go with your tip of increasing 5% to 10% per month, which intensity should I start from?

 

[GuilhermeLba]

Awesome, great to know. So do u think that my lights on acclimation mode of 14 days starting on 10% and slowing increasing is too little for it to adapt and recover? And if I choose to go with your tip of increasing 5% to 10% per month, which intensity should I start from?

My parameters are a bit too high, but I dont think thats a problem, Im starting to use all for reef, Im getting used to it.
Now Im at:
Kh 9.0
Ca 450
Mg 480
Dont know about po4 and no3 but I think its low since I dont have any sign of algae.

 

[madlos123]

Now i never have the maxspect jump mjl165 but I used to have an 85 watts black box led on top of my 10 gallon and 20 gallon. Back then i ran like 50% blue and 20% white and just look at the corals on how they respond.
What intensity are they now?
Just keep an eye on them. It might take a month or two to recover the coloration as long as they are extending and the tissue is not receding.

 

[madlos123]

Heres my receipt

 

[Hydrored]

My parameters are a bit too high, but I dont think thats a problem, Im starting to use all for reef, Im getting used to it.
Now Im at:
Kh 9.0
Ca 450
Mg 480
Dont know about po4 and no3 but I think its low since I dont have any sign of algae.

If you strip your tank of nitrates and phosphates you will bleach LPS.

Buy some good test kits, also it’s about the total available nutrients in the tank (like having fish around) and feeding them.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Do u think so? They r not that close tough.

Unfortunately correct.

If healthy, that torch could harm all of these

Assume a torch or hammer has sweepers at least double the length that it normally opens to.

 

[GuilhermeLba]

Now i never have the maxspect jump mjl165 but I used to have an 85 watts black box led on top of my 10 gallon and 20 gallon. Back then i ran like 50% blue and 20% white and just look at the corals on how they respond.
What intensity are they now?
Just keep an eye on them. It might take a month or two to recover the coloration as long as they are extending and the tissue is not receding.

He is fully extended right now, I was using 70% blues n uv n 50% white. Right now its 50% of that on acclimation mode n ramping up every day for 30 days.. Do u think its better to put it on 50% of that intensity, would be 35% blues n uv and 25% of whites for a hole month n then slowly ramping up? Or the way its on going right now should work? (Acclimation mode for 30 days, starting on 35% blues 25% whites and ending on 70% blues n 50% whites?

 

[GuilhermeLba]

Heres my receipt

Ow my god! Congrats man!

 

[GuilhermeLba]

If you strip your tank of nitrates and phosphates you will bleach LPS.

Buy some good test kits, also it’s about the total available nutrients in the tank (like having fish around) and feeding them.

They all r feeded daily with red sea ab+, really think that the source of my problem is lighting, he is the only one bleaching.

 

[GuilhermeLba]

Unfortunately correct.

If healthy, that torch could harm all of these

Assume a torch or hammer has sweepers at least double the length that it normally opens to.

Holy ...
Really dont know where to put it, I love that place..

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Holy ...
Really dont know where to put it, I love that place..

With a cube that size, and corals that are considered aggressive, such as euphyllia, You may now need to start controlling the corals ability to sting others, with flow.

It's not going to be easy in a small tank. But is possible.

 

[GuilhermeLba]

With a cube that size, and corals that are considered aggressive, such as euphyllia, You may now need to start controlling the corals ability to sting others, with flow.

It's not going to be easy in a small tank. But is possible.

Great idea.. gotta buy a wavemaker, do u have a suggestion for nano cube? 14g/64L

 

[Hydrored]

They all r feeded daily with red sea ab+, really think that the source of my problem is lighting, he is the only one bleaching.

Sure, it can be the source, my point was to get the proper test kits, they are cheaper than dead coral. Changing the lights impacts all coral.

I find torches are happy around 175-200 PAR

good luck on your adventure, hopefully it recovers

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Great idea.. gotta buy a wavemaker, do u have a suggestion for nano cube? 14g/64L

I do not as I don't have any tanks in that size range.

My recommendation for a tank that size with torches would be to try to capture the flow of the torches into the upflow of your wave maker. Pulling them safely away from other coral, rather than attempting to push them with the outflow.

Good luck.

 

[madlos123]

He is fully extended right now, I was using 70% blues n uv n 50% white. Right now its 50% of that on acclimation mode n ramping up every day for 30 days.. Do u think its better to put it on 50% of that intensity, would be 35% blues n uv and 25% of whites for a hole month n then slowly ramping up? Or the way its on going right now should work? (Acclimation mode for 30 days, starting on 35% blues 25% whites and ending on 70% blues n 50% whites?

The way its going now should be ok. Just keep an eye on the coral if it gets better or worse.

 

[GuilhermeLba]

Sure, it can be the source, my point was to get the proper test kits, they are cheaper than dead coral. Changing the lights impacts all coral.

I find torches are happy around 175-200 PAR

good luck on your adventure, hopefully it recovers

Awesome torch, man! Congrats!
Unfortunately in my state I dont have anyone to measure my par, but thanks for the advice! And Im going after those tests for sure! Thanks