Help with Bubble tip Anemone

[davocean]

If it's easy to relocate I would do so, scoop a well, place close to rockwork so it's kind of protected, maybe turn off flow for short period, 30 minutes maybe.
A healthy sebae of either type should bury in and set foot in that amount of time, though sometimes longer, and yours might take a bit, but it would also help confrim ID if it did set right away, while a BTA healthy would start climbing rock work.

 

[Tyler Miceli]

Hello,

I am new to saltwater reefing. I recently added a "Bubble tip Anemone" to my 40 gallon breeder tank. So far my "Clowns" have completely ignored this anemone; and I am not sure how it is doing. Can anyone comment on the attached pictures; on its condition? First pic is with lights off. I have been feeding it small pieces of frozen shrimp; about the size of a pencil lead. It comes cubed already frozen.

Thanks
Chuck

Sebea anemones are not easy to care for, wouldn't be the first choice I was told at my lfs. I'm new to the hobby as well and have had my tank running for 10 months (biocube 32) how long has it been in there. I just purchased a bubble tip and my clown hosted it on the 3rd day luckily. Just takes time, theres no direct answer as to how long it will take.

 

[Neo Jeo]

I was looking at it thinking same thing, though it's not easy to ID when bleached, and really foot and base are better ID indicators.

I would not feed it daily, takes energy to digest, actually that is a trick used by many to get their BTA's to split, a couple times a week, smaller foods are best

I fed mine daily and it got 3x the size in a month.. it worked for me

 

[davocean]

I fed mine daily and it got 3x the size in a month.. it worked for me

My comments are based on typical outcome based on many years of observation by myself and others, and if you were to ask someone who breeds BTA's, they will tell you it's a well known trick to overfeed and stress a BTA into splitting.

Rather than take the chance of a split while the animal is not in good health, smaller easy to digest foods, 2-3x a week max are best.

 

[davocean]

Sebea anemones are not easy to care for, wouldn't be the first choice I was told at my lfs. I'm new to the hobby as well and have had my tank running for 10 months (biocube 32) how long has it been in there. I just purchased a bubble tip and my clown hosted it on the 3rd day luckily. Just takes time, theres no direct answer as to how long it will take.

Well, depends on which sebae, they both have different care needs, one gets huge(crispa) and needs lots of light, so that would not really fit a biocube.
Malu are a little more sensitive, but much smaller and less light needy.

I don't think either are really that difficult compared to some other host nems, but some may be better suited for each individual and each tank setup.

 

[cbyrne7609]

I had one just like this for years... white with purple tips, grew to be over 8” across, and when I took that tank down I sold him back to a store that put him in a tank with a couple of look downs. He ate one. I disagree with some of these folks about the color, since mine was healthy , grew huge, always ate, lived for years, etc.

If it’s eating and attaching it’s likely fine. If it won’t eat/ won’t attach... that’s a different story.

For your clowns... were they wild or captive bred? Most captives don’t go to the anemone the way wild clowns do. If they don’t figure it out on their own, you can try to isolate them with it to encourage their partnership, but if they are captive bred, which most are these days, it might not happen.

I’ve got 2 different aenemones in my tank now with two tomatoes... they won’t go near either one...

Hope this helps...

 

[Charles Belisle]

Is this guy in bad shape? Or do Sebea Anemones close up at night? Last night with the lights off; this little guy appeared to be almost completely closed up. I have heard that if an Anemone is dying it should be pulled; before it misses the tank up with the release of it's waste. Any recommendations on this guy? Hate to discard this little guy if he is still healthy or has a chance. Sorry the pictures are not great; but it was during my night phase of the tank.

 

[Tyler Miceli]

Is this guy in bad shape? Or do Sebea Anemones close up at night? Last night with the lights off; this little guy appeared to be almost completely closed up. I have heard that if an Anemone is dying it should be pulled; before it misses the tank up with the release of it's waste. Any recommendations on this guy? Hate to discard this little guy if he is still healthy or has a chance. Sorry the pictures are not great; but it was during my night phase of the tank.

How long has it been in the tank? Anemones will naturally inflate and deflate. How does it look today?

 

[Charles Belisle]

How long has it been in the tank? Anemones will naturally inflate and deflate. How does it look today?

Well I went home for lunch and this little guy is looking better than ever. Its hard to tell how these things are doing; not as obvious as fish are:

 

[MSB123]

2 Main things.
You need to move it to the sand(carefully), and you also need much stronger lighting. The price for a light/s for a 40 Breeder will fall around $400. I would recommend An AI Hydra 52HD or 2xAI Hydra 26HD or a Kessil A360we with controller.
Anenomes are fickle and they will either tank or not tank. It best best if your have high light and proper care in order to give it the best chance of survival.

 

[Charles Belisle]

2 Main things.
You need to move it to the sand(carefully), and you also need much stronger lighting. The price for a light/s for a 40 Breeder will fall around $400. I would recommend An AI Hydra 52HD or 2xAI Hydra 26HD or a Kessil A360we with controller.
Anenomes are fickle and they will either tank or not tank. It best best if your have high light and proper care in order to give it the best chance of survival.

Tried to gently pop him out the crater he is in last weekend. It seems that he must of attached himself into it. What is the best way to get it to detach for movement to the sand? Hopefully, he can make it on the lighting I have until after Christmas.

 

[davocean]

Most anemone's will close up some w/ lights out.

While sand placement would be best for either type of sebae, I'd be a little hesitant to try to pull it now if it's really anchored, would hate to risk tearing foot.

Being that it's bleached it probably would not handle blazing light just yet, I'd continue to feed mysis a couple times a week, maybe it will gain some color by the time you get new lights, and be careful to acclimate it to new lights, ramp up slowly.

 

[Charles Belisle]

Out of these lights: I would recommend An AI Hydra 52HD or 2xAI Hydra 26HD or a Kessil A360we with controller.

Which one is the best? - I plan on having corals as well as the Sebea Anemone. - Maybe another Anemone - I like the Anemone Crab and would like two Anemones to host the crab and clowns. I think the LFS told me the Sebea will not host / or pair up with an Anemone crab.. -

 

[MSB123]

I would get the ai hydra 26hds. Get 2 of them.

Out of these lights: I would recommend An AI Hydra 52HD or 2xAI Hydra 26HD or a Kessil A360we with controller.

Which one is the best? - I plan on having corals as well as the Sebea Anemone. - Maybe another Anemone - I like the Anemone Crab and would like two Anemones to host the crab and clowns. I think the LFS told me the Sebea will not host / or pair up with an Anemone crab.. -

 

[Charles Belisle]

I would get the ai hydra 26hds. Get 2 of them.

Why the 26HD over the 52HD? - I have 36" length to mount lights and about 6 to 8" of height clearance above the tank. (low canopy) - will these fit in this space. I know some light need at least 10" for light coverage.

 

[davocean]

Out of these lights: I would recommend An AI Hydra 52HD or 2xAI Hydra 26HD or a Kessil A360we with controller.

Which one is the best? - I plan on having corals as well as the Sebea Anemone. - Maybe another Anemone - I like the Anemone Crab and would like two Anemones to host the crab and clowns. I think the LFS told me the Sebea will not host / or pair up with an Anemone crab.. -

If your sebae is a crispa keep in mind they get about 2 feet in diamter, not sure how much room you have.

An anemone crab should take any host anemone, and your clowns will most likely tolerate it.

 

[Charles Belisle]

If your sebae is a crispa keep in mind they get about 2 feet in diamter, not sure how much room you have.

An anemone crab should take any host anemone, and your clowns will most likely tolerate it.

Wow wasn't aware they get 2 ft in diameter. Like most; I thought it would grow to the size of the tank. Thinking it is in a 40 gallon breeder - 36" x 18" x 16". I figured it might get 4" to 5" in diameter. I plan on having a 200+ reef - once I master the environment of managing a 40 gallon reef. (as well as the funds).

 

[MSB123]

Wow wasn't aware they get 2 ft in diameter. Like most; I thought it would grow to the size of the tank. Thinking it is in a 40 gallon breeder - 36" x 18" x 16". I figured it might get 4" to 5" in diameter. I plan on having a 200+ reef - once I master the environment of managing a 40 gallon reef. (as well as the funds).

Fish never grow to the size of their tank. It’s an old wives tale.
A 200 gallon reef will put you back ~8-10k. My 180 has cost me $9500 and I have mediocre equipment.

 

[davocean]

The only host anemone that stays relatively small is the other sebae, Malu, which max's out at about 8-10", all other host nems are at least 18" full grown.

I've scored cheaper 180's than MSB quoted, but used, but still even then it's not far off from that when you get all the gear you'd really like.

My 120g is probably about 5 grand, NOT including my custom cabinet and stand, which fortunately I was able to build myself to save a few bucks, but if I did pay for that I would not be far from the numbers he quoted.

 

[MSB123]

The only host anemone that stays relatively small is the other sebae, Malu, which max's out at about 8-10", all other host nems are at least 18" full grown.

I've scored cheaper 180's than MSB quoted, but used, but still even then it's not far off from that when you get all the gear you'd really like.

My 120g is probably about 5 grand, NOT including my custom cabinet and stand, which fortunately I was able to build myself to save a few bucks, but if I did pay for that I would not be far from the numbers he quoted.

Yeah. I have been slowly upgrading over 2 years and am not finally at a point where I like all my gear and equipment. The current equipment and livestock (minus coral cost and tank and stand cost) just hit $7200 with my recent purchase of some new apex gear