Help with Dino

[Hadders95]

Hello all,

I have got a small outbreak of Dino at the moment and need suggestions on how to get rid of it. I have looked online and there have never been a real answer for myself, I have heard a blackout seems to work for a few days then that’s it, Dino x and other medication have side effects and my outbreak isn’t at that stage yet.

my parameters are;
PH-8.2
Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrate-40/80ppm
Phosphates-0.5 was at 1 but has dropped the last few tests

I am still doing water changes and trying to Manual Remove the Dino. I also have gha on the rock work which I have been removing it too.

I was going to reduce the nitrate and phosphates to see if that help with the issues but have seen online that isn’t a good idea and most likely increase the breakout.

any ideas would be very much appreciated cheers

 

[reef lover]

I'd try a 3 day blackout first.

 

[jose hernandez]

i had it finally got to using chemiclean tank is up to par now great product

 

[waleedreef]

why not use Dino X?

 

[Hadders95]

why not use Dino X?

from what I have read online it will get rid of dino but can damage corals etc and the Dino isn’t at that stage where it is affect the life in the tank

 

[Hadders95]

I'd try a 3 day blackout first.

Cheers will give it a good

 

[SMSREEF]

@Miller535 posted a great article with some good info. Check out this thread

I found this article of Dino's and found it very informative

So even though it appears that I am on my way to getting dinos under control, I really want to make sure I do not get overpopulated with them again. So I am trying to do some research to educate myself. I found this article really really informative. For instance I was not aware that dinos were...

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Also, are you sure it’s Dino’s? You could get a cheap microscope ($20) and confirm what you are dealing with.

 

[waleedreef]

from what I have read online it will get rid of dino but can damage corals etc and the Dino isn’t at that stage where it is affect the life in the tank

i tried it. it's reef safe. nothing bad happened

 

[jose hernandez]

Chemiclean or red slime they both work

 

[NS Mike D]

i tried it. it's reef safe. nothing bad happened

It doesn't work on all types of dinos and you run the risk of releasing the toxins in certain corals during the die off. The risk is higher when there are more dinos =. more toxins.


There is a massive thread on the subject. I am not saying DinoX doesn't work, but if were that simple, that thread would be one page.

 

[waleedreef]

It doesn't work on all types of dinos and you run the risk of releasing the toxins in certain corals during the die off. The risk is higher when there are more dinos =. more toxins.


There is a massive thread on the subject. I am not saying DinoX doesn't work, but if were that simple, that thread would be one page.

I really tried everything, closed skimmer, no water change, no light for 3 days, extra feeding, dosing nitrate and phosphate, dosing h2o2. nothing work


then i used Dino X for 40 days treatment then never come back. i advise to not waste time and start using Dino x.

 

[NS Mike D]

I really tried everything, closed skimmer, no water change, no light for 3 days, extra feeding, dosing nitrate and phosphate, dosing h2o2. nothing work


then i used Dino X for 40 days treatment then never come back. i advise to not waste time and start using Dino x.

I am all in favor of DinoX, if you know what you are doing and you know with what you are dealing. I don't think blanket statements based on your anecdotal experience tell the whole story and can lead someone down the wrong path. Odds are the stuff will do as promised, but that promise is qualified

from Fauna Marin itself in another thread addressing some issues:


"Depending on the severity of the problem, we usually attempt other common methods of Dino treatment before using DinoX, but depending on the nature of the problem, it makes sense to work with DinoX.

Some problems which have been mentioned earlier are not only Dino-related issues but also gold algae and bacteria-related issues which can be the cause of negative reaction. In situations like this, DinoX cannot work because the product is not a toxic substance."

 

[piranhaman00]

I dont see dinos in either picture.

DinoX itself is reef safe but the sudden die off and toxin release is deadly, I had it kill two clown in a matter of minutes.

 

[NS Mike D]

I dont see dinos in either picture.

DinoX itself is reef safe but the sudden die off and toxin release is deadly, I had it kill two clown in a matter of minutes.

could be either diatoms or early stage of dinos.


@Hadders95 hold off on water changes if they are dinos, the new water feeds them. Also, have you confirmed they are dinos- microscope or the non-microscope and the poor mans UV will help. I'll link them.

If they go away at night, the do the 3 day black out and the poor mans uv. At night they are going back into the water column. The poor man uv (see below) will help trap the swimmers)


no microscope method to confirm dinos.

Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

@mcarroll I am linking a thread I started that noticed my ORP was super low and I thought that was probably due to dinos. Anyone else notice the same thing? https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/can-dinos-cause-really-low-orp.325625/#post-4035164 I'll continue updating there.

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poor man uv

Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

Poor Man's UV I wanted to (re)post this, as recently I've seen a couple of people with massive populations of dinos who are not apparently doing any real export. And this idea seems to have been lost in the depths of a few thousand posts. I originally stole it from user nvladik. Hang some filter...

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[ScottB]

Before doing anything special, I would get some confirmation on what you are dealing with. Getting a sample under a microscope is best. You will then know:
a) If they are in fact dinos
b) Whether or not a blackout and or UV is going to control them

You can do a simple test that will help you determine if they are dinos (but not what species) as a first step:
a) tank a large sample of the gunk on the left side glass with some tank water. Put in a jar and shake vigorously.
b) Pour that cloudy solution through a coffee filter into a clear glass or vial. Place under a light for an hour.
c) If the gunk clumps back up after an hour: dinos.

As to Dino-X, if you can tell me what the specific ingredients are, I will tell you what I think of it.