Help with my wrasses

[Mr.Asbury]

I got 3 wrasses in from BlueZoo today, and all were thankfully alive upon arrival. I used Safety Stop after drip acclimating them to my QT tank's water.

One of the 3 is laying at the bottom of the tank and not moving. He is breathing very heavily and rapidly through both gills. I only have one picture of him, but you can't really see anything due to the dim lighting. I'm hoping it's just from stress/ammonia from shipping, but would like any advice.

The second wrasse has a few white spots on his head. These are the best pictures I could get. The glass is clean, so the spots you see here are on the fish. They're only located on his face.

Is anyone able to tell me what this is, and what steps I should try first to try and make sure these fish get healthy?

 

[Dom]

Are they in quarantine? If not, I would get them in QT until we figure out what is going on.

 

[Dom]

It may be stress from shipping and being in a new environment.
@Humblefish

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Herd to tell, on one I would say Velvet but I’m not ruling out ich either because I can’t see the body of the other. The upside is copper treats both. Get them into QT and start bringing up copper (copper power) to 1.75 over the next 24 hours. Normally I extend this period of ramping up but I think you have critically sick fish. Pick the strongest fish of the group and do a FW dip on the way to QT to check for flukes.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

On second thought you could FW dip all three to help relieve the effects of velvet. I’m honestly not sure the one will last the night TBH.

 

[Dom]

Herd to tell, on one I would say Velvet but I’m not ruling out ich either because I can’t see the body of the other. The upside is copper treats both. Get them into QT and start bringing up copper (copper power) to 1.75 over the next 24 hours. Normally I extend this period of ramping up but I think you have critically sick fish. Pick the strongest fish of the group and do a FW dip on the way to QT to check for flukes.

Yeah; on that first pic... is that the one you're talking about? I thought it looked like it had some dusting.

On the other pics, I can't tell if it is Ich or injury.

 

[Mr.Asbury]

I have a container of sand in my QT with them because I read you're supposed to do that to help relieve stress. If that's velvet, should I leave the sand container or pull it before dosing the copper?

Also, how quickly does the velvet spread if that's what the worse off of the fish have. One of the fish looked great, is swimming around a lot, and ate as soon as I fed in QT. How long do I have to get him to his own tank before he's infected? Am I already past that point? They were added into QT together ~9hrs ago.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I have a container of sand in my QT with them because I read you're supposed to do that to help relieve stress. If that's velvet, should I leave the sand container or pull it before dosing the copper?

Also, how quickly does the velvet spread if that's what the worse off of the fish have. One of the fish looked great, is swimming around a lot, and ate as soon as I fed in QT. How long do I have to get him to his own tank before he's infected? Am I already past that point? They were added into QT together ~9hrs ago.

All fish have been exposed. Treat them all together, velvet kills very quickly. I would start treating immediately,They will be ok without sand.
Treat with copper for 30 days in the same tank or for 14 with a transfer to a sterile tank. Once you reach 1.75ppm watch the fish for sensitivity and if you can reach 2.0ppm that would be ideal as some copper resistant velvet has been discovered lately.

 

[HotRocks]

Are the only spots the few on snout?

It doesn't look like velvet to me. I would do a FW dip. To see if any flukes come off.

For your one that is laying around, low stress, no tank lights for the next 24-48hrs. What your Wrasse is doing is normal Wrasse behavior for a newly acclimated fish.

 

[Mr.Asbury]

Are the only spots the few on snout?

It doesn't look like velvet to me. I would do a FW dip. To see if any flukes come off.

For your one that is laying around, low stress, no tank lights for the next 24-48hrs. What your Wrasse is doing is normal Wrasse behavior for a newly acclimated fish.

They are only on the snout. In a panick I drove back to the school, and they were all huddled together in the corner of the tank under the sponge filter. The one with rapid breathing was still breathing heavy (gills moving noticably) but it was slower and at more even intervals. I used the safety stop before adding them to qt, will a freshwater dip still help? I thought flukes and whatnot were supposed to be forced to release during that.

 

[Big G]

Wrasses are "fluke magnets." Their thick mucous coats protect them a bit from ich or velvet, but flukes just love them. Be mindful that the flukes deeply in their gills may not be affected as much by freshwater dip because of the thick mucous.

 

[Mr.Asbury]

Wrasses are "fluke magnets." Their thick mucous coats protect them a bit from ich or velvet, but flukes just love them. Be mindful that the flukes deeply in their gills may not be affected as much by freshwater dip because of the thick mucous.

Will the freshwater dip still be effective? I did safety stop, which I thought was supposed to help remove flukes and external parasites. They're looking a lot better today, so I'm hoping it was just stress induced.