Help with the math!!!

Funtrader · Sep 13, 2023

I do apologize if it am posting this in the wrong group but I need help doing the calculations and the math. I went to my local fish store and got my water tested and they recomended me to start dosing. I went to red sea and attach is what their website recommended but I guess that amount if without them knowing my water parameters so I am attaching my water levels I just did today. Any help in getting me the right amount for me to dose will be greatly appreciated as I don't want to hurt or kill any living plants or animals in my tank lol. My tank has a capacity of 120 gallons. They also told me I might have some ammonia in the tank so they also gave me triage to treat that. They also said my water is salty.

Reeflix · Sep 13, 2023

you need to figure out the ammonia right away as it is toxic to fish! how old is the tank? there is a website called reef.diesyst that has a dosing calculator for alk, cal and i think mag.

Randy Holmes-Farley · Sep 13, 2023

Is this a new tank?

What did they suggest about ammonia?

Alkalinity, calcium, and magneisum are all fine.

The water salinity is also fine. Average seawater is 35 ppt (sg = 1.0264). If the sg = 1.027 is accurate, it is 35.8 ppt.

If you want, you can remove a small amount of salt w2ater and replace with pure fresh water. Doing that with 2% of the water volume will bring it to 35 ppt.

Reeflix · Sep 13, 2023

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
Is this a new tank?

What did they suggest about ammonia?

Alkalinity, calcium, and magneisum are all fine.

The water salinity is also fine. Average seawater is 35 ppt (sg = 1.0264). If the sg = 1.027 is accurate, it is 35.8 ppt.

If you want, you can remove a small amount of salt w2ater and replace with pure fresh water. Doing that with 2% of the water volume will bring it to 35 ppt.

i agree. Your cal mag and alk are all fine, why did you want to dose?

Funtrader · Sep 13, 2023

Thanks, everyone. My tank is almost 3 months old. Regarding the ammonia, they gave me a product I guess that is made by atm that is called triage. Why they recommended dosing is new to me as I am new to the hobby and don't know better. Maybe they figured I would buy what they try to sell me lol. I guess they heard me saying that my corals and anemone were looking pale and not so good. But that is part my fault as I jumped in not knowing better that I couldn't add the corals and anemone so soon. So maybe return all of these dosing liquids and just keep the triage for the ammonia

exnisstech · Sep 13, 2023

Funtrader said:
Why they recomended dosing is new to me as I am new to the hobby and don't know better. Maybe they figured I will buy what they try to sell me lol

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I would question the ammonia also. Maybe another test or ignore it if you have fish and they are acting normally. Tank is too young to start dumping stuff in IMO

Randy Holmes-Farley · Sep 13, 2023

Funtrader said:
Thanks everyone. My tank is almost 3 month old. Regarding the ammonia they gave me a product I guess that is made by atm that is call triage. Why they recomended dosing is new to me as I am new to the hobby and don't know better. Maybe they figured I will buy what they try to sell me lol. I guess they heard me saying that my corals and anemone where looking pale and not so good. But that is part my fault as I jumped in not knowing better that I couldn't add the corals and anemone so soon. So maybe return all of this dosing liquids and just keep the triage for the ammonia?

I would not get too worked up over ammonia at low levels in a 3 month old tank with corals and an anemone, unless something big recently died in the water that might have temporarily raised ammonia.. Are there fish in it? it may just be test error. I don't recommend even routinely testing it.

I also would not assume that Triage product is useful. It sounds like a knock off of Seachem Prime, which has been shown to not do what it claims for ammonia.

biom · Sep 13, 2023

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
I also would not assume that Triage product is useful. It sounds like a knock off of Seachem Prime, which has been shown to not do what it claims for ammonia.

They claimed it detoxifies nitrates (!) and 5 ml of it in 10 gallons will remove 1 ppm ammonia

. I am not sure if it is even designed for saltwater use.

Reeflix · Sep 13, 2023

Funtrader said:
So maybe return all of these dosing liquids and just keep the triage for the ammonia

i wouldnt. if the tank is three months old then ammonia isnt uncommon. dont return the dosing stuff since you will need it later in the hobby

FUNGI · Sep 13, 2023

biom said:
They claimed it detoxifies nitrates (!) and 5 ml of it in 10 gallons will remove 1 ppm ammonia . I am not sure if it is even designed for saltwater use.

to detoxify nitrites;

Reef Devils · Sep 13, 2023

Funtrader said:
I do apologize if it am posting this in the wrong group but I need help doing the calculations and the math. I went to my local fish store and got my water tested and they recomended me to start dosing. I went to red sea and attach is what their website recommended but I guess that amount if without them knowing my water parameters so I am attaching my water levels I just did today. Any help in getting me the right amount for me to dose will be greatly appreciated as I don't want to hurt or kill any living plants or animals in my tank lol. My tank has a capacity of 120 gallons. They also told me I might have some ammonia in the tank so they also gave me triage to treat that. They also said my water is salty.

I don’t think u need to dose anything your calcium alk and mag are fine.

biom · Sep 13, 2023

FUNGI said:
to detoxify nitrites;

ATM Triage

ATM Triage ATM Triage First Response leaps into action to address the emergency removal of Ammonia toxicity in situations such as bio-filtration stalls or failures, power outages or any other instance which results in accumulation of unwanted toxic nitrogenous compounds.Because Ammonia is...

fitfiltration.co.uk

ATM Triage First Response 473ml

tropestua.no

Randy Holmes-Farley · Sep 13, 2023

Contained in the first biom link:

Helps detoxify Nitrite and Nitrate

lol

I wonder if they know what is in prime by analyzing it and just grabbed the same claims.

Otherwise, it seems like convergent evolution of products to claim it does everything one might conceive.

KStatefan · Sep 13, 2023

I did not know there was still an ATM brand

Funtrader · Sep 13, 2023

I agree with you guys and maybe I should not worry to much about it. I do have 7 fish, 2 anemones, 3 hammers, lots of cleaners ( yes BIG mistake on adding all that on a tank that has not been cycle) So I am not going to dose at all and let the tank be. The fish all look healthy my main worries has been the anemones and hammers. Their colors where almost all gone. I had added a torch but it did not make it and unfortunately it went to torch heaven. I did reach out to redsea and send them my water parameters and we'll I attach their response and they pretty much mention that my water is fine but that I might benefit of one of their products lol. Thanks you all for your continue advice and helping fix my big mistake on trying to add everything add once.