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Alright let me start out by saying i originally started out with freshwater, i have been doing african cichlid setups for about 5 years. About March of this year i purchased a 55 gallon saltwater setup from someone i transferred the tank the water and everything with it upon moving. When i bought it it had two ocellaris clowns a yellow tang and a diadema i believe. The tank had one powerhead flourescent lighting and a fluval 305. The substrate was crushed coral and there was a few plastic plants. Upon doing my research i purchased a Eshopps Psk 100 protein skimmer and a hang on back sump that i added crushed coral to and some white sponge pad. Here is the tank with some minor additions i added after setting up after moving
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I ended up buying some chocolate stars and a condy anemone and a few damsels *First mistake*

Maybe a month a month and a half later one by one things started to dissapear popped up dead and just really started to stress me out because things were going fine for so long. Long story short i found what looked like piece of the condy dead in my tank. So upon water changes and so fourth a few weeks later i started to restock, Yet again fish started to die again. I had my water tested at my local LFS and was advised it looks like my tank had started to recycle probably due to the crushed coral getting kicked up somehow. so maybe a few days later SURPRISE the tank busts a leak given the circumstances i was in no position to reseal it so i just drained it and purchased a new 55 gallon. on top of that i did not keep the crushed coral substrate due to the cycling issues and i replaced it with sand. so upon the replacements i bought new live rock as well in hopes of helping get me back on track getting the tank to this point
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*The substrate is sand now not the crushed coral*i did purchase some right now live bacteria upon changing out the substrate and did tests to make sure ammonia and everything was right which testing it verified everything was right. So pretty much within the past two months i have been testing my water daily and my Nitrates are testing <10 Nitrites 0 alkalines testing between 180-300 and my PH continues to fluctuate between 7.8-8.4 throughout all of the problems the only fish that have been able to survive is a maroon clown and a salfin tang see below
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I purchased another anemone about two months ago when i got my new live rock and the anemone LOVED the spot that it found
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but about a month ago when i got my maroon it continued to stress the anemone and the anemone continued to move around a shrivel up. So i was advised through all this trouble that it would be a good idea to get a quarantine tank so i purchased a 36 gallon bowfront and it has an aqueon 30 hob filter and a remora protein skimmer i have been testing both tanks and i am getting similar readings on both tanks. I add iodide and trace elements to both as well as some stability supplement as well The anemone still has not opened back up like before and i am just trying to figure out what i need to do to get this tank back to how it was when i bought it before i literally kill myself!!!!
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Right now this is what both tanks look like
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in the 36 gallon i have an 8,000K T5 the purple anemone and a serpent star and thats it and in my 55 i have various hermits turbo snails nassarus snails a serpent star a rock anemone a conch snail the salfin and the maroon and one polyp of a electric green something coral i have 2 powerheads the fluval 305 the eshopps psk 100 skimmer and the hang on back sump with return pump.I have lost so many fish and i just dont know what i am doing wrong. I do not use tap water i always buy R/O water and mix and just recently i bought some live sand from someone that had in their reef setup for five years i only brought about enough to fit in a paint gallon and i put that in my 55. PLEASE HELP!!!! :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:


 
Imo you need to slow down and let things become more stable. The moving around probably did cause the tank to cycle again. Do not add any other live stock until everything becomes stable. Your PH is fluctuating a lot it seems. Also spend time researching any new additions later for compatibility or concerns. Damsels are usually a bad choice because of their aggressiveness as you just found out. Also seen it posted many times unless you are using a tds meter on the ro water you are purchasing do not be sure that it is good. Seen people post on here many of times saying the ro water they bought is bad. Until things become more stable and you get to the root of the problem do not add more livestock. Also make sure you run some activated carbon. The QT is definitely a good idea and a mistake many wish they had not made. Believe me, my tank has sat with just 1 oc clownfish with a cuc for 5 mths. This may be to the extreme but I am trying to make sure everything is stable and well researched before moving on. So far I can not complain although my tank looks bare. In time it will be nice as I am sure yours will be too. Number 1 rule in this hobby go slow!!!!
 
Is there anything to speed this up I prematurely got into this hobby and I nowhere near expected I would have to wait this long just to get some decent fish to live in this tank or would have to have put in this much work and money for a non functioning tank
 
I've had perfect water conditions in my 55g last year, everything was thriving but my long purple tentacle anemone. Just shrivelled and disappeared :(
Just bad luck sometimes
 
Exactly what kind of light do you have? If it is a single pc bulb it is probably not enough light to support anemones long term. Also I would wait at least six months to a year before adding anemones. You need to let the tank settle and stabilize. Please ask around for advice before buying things as that tang will quickly out grow a 55 and maroon clowns are very aggressive toward new fish that invade their territory. This means that you have limited stocking options from the start with these fish.
 
I have a coralife 36 inch led and I am aware of the maroon being aggressive this one is not and the maroon was the last fish I added in but all I have is the maroon and the salfin in my 55 i plan to upgrade but not if I can't get this one stable
 
Sorry I must have missed the leds on your upgrades to the original tank.
 
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I forgot to post it but i plan to completly restock considering all I have is two fish once I can get it right so dont worry about that i just need to get the tank parameters stable
 
Oohs I see now that is a background on the new setup. Looks like you cleaned it up nicely. I would give it some time and try one of the bacteria boosters. Then start restocking slowly. Avoid adding anymore sensitive inverts until you have added one or two new fish without your parameters going all crazy. Also be sure you qt new fish so you don't add sick fish. That is never fun.
 
Alright guys i just took a water sample to a nice reef store and they tested it and said there is no way my tank is cycling because everything tested zero and only thing out of range is ph which would be low because I don't use buffer weekly he said it is probably diseased fish and I should make my tank a fish only and use copper weekly
 
Alright guys i just took a water sample to a nice reef store and they tested it and said there is no way my tank is cycling because everything tested zero and only thing out of range is ph which would be low because I don't use buffer weekly he said it is probably diseased fish and I should make my tank a fish only and use copper weekly

Wow really? Tell him to find a new job
 
Just when you thought you saw all the crazy things lfs advise something like this happens....
 

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