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Is this what ich or velvet? My blue hippo was fine until last night I noticed he was "salted" like ich very badly. This morning he's dead and this is what he looked like. I have two clowns, yellow tang, and a lawnmower blenny. I just want to confirm what this is so I can treat the whole tank. I have a small 10 gallon tank I plan on moving my chocolate chip star and hermit crabs to while I dose my big tank. Also what's the best med treatment?
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Personally that looks more like Brooklynella and sounds more like it if your fish expired that quickly. But HumbleFish will verify.

Treating the whole tank will adversely affect the entire systems, you need to quarantine those fish and leave the tank without fish/fallow for a number of weeks.

Brooklynella kills quickly and is highly contagious.

Go to Petco and pick up a 15 gallon or twenty, since you only have 4 fish.

You're going to have to quarantine regardless of disease process so you might as well move in that direction.
 
It's a 39 gallon tank, HOB filter, temp is 80 degrees,
Ammonia 0
Phosphates 0.25
Nitrates 10
40 lbs LS
40 lbs LR
 
How old is the tank? When was the last time you added anything?

DON'T treat your display tank.

How do the remaining fish look?

I would advise rehoming the tang and not getting any more.
 
I have him in a container and plan on being it with me to LFS but he doesn't open for two more hours. Finally after 3 months I get my tank self sufficient and then this happens....I'm addicted but makes you want to quit....
 
We added the blue hippo a little over a week ago. He was the last fish to complete our DT. Why wouldn't you treat the DT?
 
We added the blue hippo a little over a week ago. He was the last fish to complete our DT. Why wouldn't you treat the DT?

Because you use copper to treat for velvet and that copper will be absorbed by your substrait and rocks to then leach back out and kill any inverts in the tank later on.
 
I have him in a container and plan on being it with me to LFS but he doesn't open for two more hours. Finally after 3 months I get my tank self sufficient and then this happens....I'm addicted but makes you want to quit....

If your LFS is the one that sold you everything and has been giving you "advise", then I would NOT go back there.

I would never treat your tank as "self sufficient". Treat your tank as it is always possible for a crash and you must keep it from that. I've been through ich outbreaks and the best thing to do is chug along and deal with it as a learning experience and quarantine for now on.

Ich in the display means you are going to want to go fallow. Removing all fish for 72+ days to allow 100% assurance the parasite is dead, and quarantine ALL fish in quarantine tanks more than 10 feet away (thanks @Humblefish ;)).
 
This looks to be a really bad case of ich, but as @Tahoe61 pointed out it could also be Brooklynella. Did you see the fish's skin peeling or sloughing off? Or was it just white dots?
 
I have him in a container and plan on being it with me to LFS but he doesn't open for two more hours. Finally after 3 months I get my tank self sufficient and then this happens....I'm addicted but makes you want to quit....

Unfortunately this is one of the common road bumps in the hobby, it's the very rare hobbyist that has not had this experience.
This will also make you a better more seasoned hobbyist, you'll save money and frustration in the long run. Do not let the frustration get to you.
 
most tangs, and especially hippo's are ich magnet's if that's what it is. not surprising seeing that you have two in a tank far too small for either. not to sound like the tang police but if you replace the fish with more tangs in that tank, your just asking for more of the same. as much as I love tangs, I will not put one in my 120 gal. reef. I feel even that is too small. just not worth the trouble when there are so many other beautiful fish that are less troublesome. best advice is to let your tank go fallow for a minimum of 72 days. then rethink your stocking, or just buy a larger tank.
 
So sad to hear about your issues. I've felt like getting out of the hobby several times too but realized that I'm just learning from issues that arise and continue on. Unfortunately this is a hard way to learn you should quarantine all fish before going into the display tank.
 
I meant self sufficient by only needing regular water changes and parameters are good.....
 
sucks to see a beautiful fish die, but bud, that's WAY to small for that fish. tangs are very sensitive and even when they are small they want large tanks. youre best bet was mentioned above. setup a QT and treat the fish and go fallow for a while. think its 8 weeks but @Humblefish can correct me if im wrong on that.

if you just cannot do this, youre only other option is to run paraguard. now, even though ive done this, I don't recommend it. I could have just gotten lucky. I dosed a full reef with paraguard at 3/4 recommended dosing for 5 weeks and the only thing I lost were pest startfish. no coral died, no other inverts died. but its a big chance. ive sense trashed the rock and sand from that setup and stopped taking chances with dosing my tank with medicine. it is an option, but my advice is setup your QT. and shop elsewhere.
 

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