Keepswiming
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So true.
High End?
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Bioprospector
I missed the second part of your post. Absolutely, I grow out much of them and keep them. Some of which I dont offer for sale, They become more of a personal collection while others I have grown for years and offer them often.
kidtango
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I don't think it's a hype for "high end" corals. No matter what light you give a red planet, Oregon tort, or any of the "normal" corals, you will not get the color of WD or RR orange passion and etc. I know this because I have all the top classic corals like Tyree pink lemonade, ORA red planet, Battlecorals rainbow in Spain and many more. The RR, TGC, Jf and many more other "high end" brands have truly insane colors under the best water condition and lighting.
You do have to run a lot of blue light in the tank. My tank goes from 18k midday to 24k sunset/moon.
You guys have to see one of these tanks in person to truly appreciate the wide range of colors that the high end stuff can offer. But if you insist that "true color" of the corals can only be represented under 10k lighting, then that is just a matter of opinion and preference. And that's fine too. But give it a try and maybe you'll like it. Maybe you won't.
You do have to run a lot of blue light in the tank. My tank goes from 18k midday to 24k sunset/moon.
You guys have to see one of these tanks in person to truly appreciate the wide range of colors that the high end stuff can offer. But if you insist that "true color" of the corals can only be represented under 10k lighting, then that is just a matter of opinion and preference. And that's fine too. But give it a try and maybe you'll like it. Maybe you won't.
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I don't think it's a hype for "high end" corals. No matter what light you give a red planet, Oregon tort, or any of the "normal" corals, you will not get the color of WD or RR orange passion and etc. I know this because I have all the top classic corals like Tyree pink lemonade, ORA red planet, Battlecorals rainbow in Spain and many more. The RR, TGC, Jf and many more other "high end" brands have truly insane colors under the best water condition and lighting.
You do have to run a lot of blue light in the tank. My tank goes from 18k midday to 24k sunset/moon.
You guys have to see one of these tanks in person to truly appreciate the wide range of colors that the high end stuff can offer. But if you insist that "true color" of the corals can only be represented under 10k lighting, then that is just a matter of opinion and preference. And that's fine too. But give it a try and maybe you'll like it. Maybe you won't.
I've just recently entered into the world of "higher end" Coral. High end Coral is all about color with price set by supply/demand. Asking a price doesn't set worth... its selling at that price that matters.
kidtango
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Exactly. That's just eco 101. No wants red planet or most of the classic corals anymore. They go for $20-50 a frag locally. Try selling a JF flame for $100 and you'll find many eager buyers. And if you are able to see this coral in person under 20k light, then you would most likely want it in your tank. Who wouldn't want a super flaming red coral with neon green/deep yellow tips? It looks surreal in person. Imagine a tank full of intense rainbow color sps... add in colonies of jawbreaker mushrooms and WWC og bounce and you'll get to see what I usually look at everyday.
Sm51498
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A couple super colored corals are great to have as a center piece for a tank. When you fill a tank with them it just ends up looking like a clown threw up on a blacklight poster at a rave at rainbow bright's house.
Obviously having a full pallete of colors to work with helps but good composition and strong aquascaping will always look better to me. Also big mature colonies will always look better than a tank that looks like a frag rack.
So let people pay the huge dollars. I bet with good aquascaping I could make a tank full of Kenya tree and gsp look better than a tank full of booger sized frags given the same amount of time. Wait a couple years and those awesome super colored corals will be way more affordable.
Obviously having a full pallete of colors to work with helps but good composition and strong aquascaping will always look better to me. Also big mature colonies will always look better than a tank that looks like a frag rack.
So let people pay the huge dollars. I bet with good aquascaping I could make a tank full of Kenya tree and gsp look better than a tank full of booger sized frags given the same amount of time. Wait a couple years and those awesome super colored corals will be way more affordable.
themcnertney
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I didn't read thru this whole thread but here is my take...what makes anything high end? Price maybe. What one individual can or cannot afford maybe? Example: I think BMW and Mercedes are high end, but owners who can afford them may think Ferrari and Lamborghini are high end, but owners of those may think Bugatti and Koenigsegg are high end. Personal opinion makes objects high end maybe. If something is labeled as high end, it can be a cop out for the price to be outrageous.
My "high ended" acro being fried under heavy red/green spectrum 
Heliarc19
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This reminds me of registered dogs, to people who know or care bloodlines matter about to pay 10k for a retriever , I can get one "similar" for free or for a very small price tag. If you know and/or care then it's worth more to you. I have never had any "high end" maybe I would if I was more confident they would thrive lol
Sm51498
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There is a little difference. Comparing aquacultured coral to aquacultured coral raised in a good environment, there is very little difference in health. Comparing purebred dog to purebred dog there are massive health differences between breeders. That is not a concern with aquacultured corals.
Heliarc19
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Maybe so, my 15 yr old mutt had very little health problems, anyway that is what the "high end" corals remind me of.
Abhishek
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Exactly. That's just eco 101. No wants red planet or most of the classic corals anymore. They go for $20-50 a frag locally. Try selling a JF flame for $100 and you'll find many eager buyers. And if you are able to see this coral in person under 20k light, then you would most likely want it in your tank. Who wouldn't want a super flaming red coral with neon green/deep yellow tips? It looks surreal in person. Imagine a tank full of intense rainbow color sps... add in colonies of jawbreaker mushrooms and WWC og bounce and you'll get to see what I usually look at everyday.
This is not true !! There are many hard core sps addicts like me who likes to keep all old school acros. If you ever see a colony of the old school purple monster , you will know how majestic it looks . Its all perception and personal taste that varies from people to people.
I would take a tank filled with old school staghorns anyday over bounce mushrooms or the new signature acros.
A tank of purple monster, oregon tort, sapphire millepora , green slimmer, red dragon and lemonade would equally blow anything in my eyes .
Some of us would rather pay same high price of WD for an old school beauty like purple monster mini colony .
Regards,
Abhishek
Dragonreef202
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Corals are no different than shopping for clothes, cars, or hey don't forget cell phones. There's still some affordable corals out that look just fine. I'm looking for any coral that's on sale and looks good to my eye. Not too much on the name of a coral to spend a lot of money on it. Gifts are appreciated though. Thank you and keep reefing.
kidtango
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You're right. Some of us still want the 1990 look for an sps tank. Massive colonies and rock wall style aquascaping or two Island style. That's fine too. I think those tanks with a bunch of corals and fish are awesome.
But of course there are some of us who's willing to try new things and create something different. I for once do not want massive colonies of SPS regardless of what type of sps it is.
tyler1503
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I have a fantastic idea!!
You know those green mushrooms with the blue spots on them that most LFS have a hard time selling because they're so common and grow so quickly?
If you photoshop them so they're sky blue and with hot pink spots, you can call them "super high end neon sky blast" and charge $1000 per pup. Now THAT'S the way to do it! Who wants to make some money with me?
You know those green mushrooms with the blue spots on them that most LFS have a hard time selling because they're so common and grow so quickly?
If you photoshop them so they're sky blue and with hot pink spots, you can call them "super high end neon sky blast" and charge $1000 per pup. Now THAT'S the way to do it! Who wants to make some money with me?
