High Lithium levels per Triton?

[fishnugget1]

My triton testing shows high lithium 663. My last Triton showed 445. I have done numerous water changes and got a new batch of Tropic Marin salt. Any ideas what would be causing this and how to correct? Using B-Ionic 2 part. Dosing 6ml of Acrowpower per day.

Also showing 60 aluminum. Could this be from Phosguard that I use to lower phosphates in addition to refugium?

 

[Cory]

Yes the phosguard is most likely the source of aluminum. And the lithium usually is the salt mix or calcium supplements iirc

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I don’t consider elevated lithium to be a concern. It is not toxic at levels usually encountered.

 

[Cory]

I don’t consider elevated lithium to be a concern. It is not toxic at levels usually encountered.

Just curious why your not concerned? My uncle took lithium pills of some sort years ago and became a very angry person lol

 

[fishnugget1]

Should I just forget it at 650. It has gone up 50 percent in 3 mos. do you know if cuprisorb will help?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Just curious why your not concerned? My uncle took lithium pills of some sort years ago and became a very angry person lol

that’s actually part of the rational. It takes a large amount of lithium to have a pharmacological effect, and in seawater it is greatly swamped out by the very similar chemical sodium.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Should I just forget it at 650. It has gone up 50 percent in 3 mos. do you know if cuprisorb will help?

Nothing can remove it from seawater and there’s no reason to try. If you are still concerned, find a low lithium salt mix and do water changes with it.

 

[fishnugget1]

I am us8ng tropic marine for reef tanks. They don’t mention high lithium. Should I switch to what salt?
Can lithium come from acrowpower

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I would not do anything. Nothing. Most reef tanks in the US have elevated lithium, mine included. Some are far higher than yours. It is just not any apparent tox concern at these levels.

 

[Cory]

Im curious why some things are toxic and others are not. Its very interesting. Is there some kind of common denominator to toxicity?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Im curious why some things are toxic and others are not. Its very interesting. Is there some kind of common denominator to toxicity?

Toxicity typically implies interference in some natural process that organisms perform. Sometimes it is well understood on a molecular level and sometimes not.

a simple ion like lithium would most likely become toxic when it became concentrated enough to swap in for sodium or potassium in some critical biochemical process.

even the positive pharmacological benefits of lithium are not well understood despite being extensively studied:

Lithium Toxicity - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

PharmacodynamicsLithium's physiologic role is unknown, and its mechanism is not well understood; however, some proposed mechanisms include:

• Producing brain inositol depletion, leading to reduced responsiveness to alpha-adrenergic stimulation [4].
• REducing neuronal responsiveness to neurotransmitters due to inhibitory effects on adenylate cyclase and G proteins vital for ion channel opening[5].
• Stimulating serotonin release from the hippocampus [6].
• Being a cation, acting similar to potassium and sodium, thus affecting ion transport and cell membrane potential [7].

 

[Frankscalise]

I am us8ng tropic marine for reef tanks. They don’t mention high lithium. Should I switch to what salt?
Can lithium come from acrowpower

Nyos pure salt it comes with an ICP tested on every bucket it shows you exactly what's in the salt. It's awesome