High nitrate low phosphate, help!

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Good afternoon all,

I'm in urgent need of advice as I haven't come across this issue in am the years I have been keeping fish and it appears to be causing stress to my corals.

Here's a little info about my system.
Around 800 litres and set up for around a year.
1500 litre skimmer on 24/7.
Large refu gium with cheatomorph. Lit 18hours per day.
Good circulation and virtually zero algae in display.
50kg of walt Smith reef rock and pukani rubble in the sump. This rubble was pre soaked and water tested before introducing.
Sand is very fine. Conch turn it over nightly.
Parameters are as follows.

Temp 25.
Ph 8.2 stable
Kh 9
Mag 1230 manual powder dosing
Po4 0.5
Salinty 1.023
Nitrate 50+ppm

Everything was fine even with nitrate at 50ppm but corals started closing up and going pale when po4 dropped to 0.02ppm. I put this down to lack of po4 so began feeding a little more to raise it. Over a week the po4 has gone up to 0.2 then 0.5. Now the euphyllia are closing down!

It isn't easy to just do more water changes as the tank is so large.

Can any advise constructively on how to balance the two nutrients out without causing too much stress on the corals.

Tank is vastly stocked with zoa and palys. Some euphyllia, caulastrea, trachy and cataphyllia.

Help please!

Thanks in advance
 
Well, phosphate certainly isn't low now. I'd go back to the original feeding scheme.

If phosphate drops too low (0.02 ppm is not too low, IMO, but less is), then I'd consider dosing phosphate.
 
Hi Randy. Thank you for your reply.

How can I reduce the nitrate content? I'm really struggling to do so.

I wasn't keen on carbon dosing as I thought this would drop the po4 quicker than the nitrate can get to any sort of acceptable level.

Any advice on how to safely reduce the nitrate would be greatly appreciated. And I will go back to the original feeding programme.

Thanks
 
Organic carbon dosing is imbalanced toward more nitrate removal than phosphate. At your levels, nitrate may well run out before phosphate does.
 
Fantastic! So if I use NopoX for example that should bring the nitrate down?
 
Fantastic! So if I use NopoX for example that should bring the nitrate down?

Yes, all types of organic carbon dosing (I prefer vinegar) will reduce nitrate substantially (if you use enough for long enough), and have a smaller effect on phosphate. :)
 
Thank you Randy.

Do you have a link where I can read up on the vinegar dosing please?

Thanks again.
 
I discuss nitrate and carbon dosing hare:

Nitrate in the Reef Aquarium - REEFEDITION
https://www.reef2reef.com/blog/nitrate-in-the-reef-aquarium

and vinegar here:

http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index...ar-dosing-methodology-for-the-marine-aquarium

One caveat is that I don't agree with the doses and slow ramp up in the vinegar article. It's an OK starting point, but I don't really think doses need to be so slowly increased.

Thanks alot. I will read through this tonight. Appreciate the help :)
 
Carbon is a silver bullet for nitrates. Just like Randy said the phosphates are depleted at a much slower rate. With carbon dosing you don't get results over night, sometimes you don't see any changes for a couple of weeks, then bam all of a sudden nitrates start dropping exponentially. If you start off and don't see immediate results that does not mean you should dramatically increase the amount of carbon you are adding daily. Typically the bacterial population has to build up to a decent level before you start seeing dramatic results.
 
Thanks. I'm going to take it slowly and follow the dosing calculator.

I'm unsure about which vinegar to get in the UK though?

I have found distilled white Malt vinegar. Is this correct? I haven't started yet until I am sure I have the correct vinegar. Thanks
 

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