Highgrade's Red Sea Reefer Peninsula 650
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john.m.cole3
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I'm glad to hear the customer service is good from Red sea. That alone will make me lean more towards them in the future.Update: I've been working with Red Sea on a replacement tank since the current tank has blemishes on the outside glass. Appears to be residue from the finishing/polishing of the glass. The glass appears to have what looks like water spots if you look at the right angle. You can feel the edges with your fingernail. I've tried removing with RO/DI water and vinegar. No luck. If I scrape it with a razor blade no difference. Almost appears as if it is etched or adhered to the glass like a sealant or glue. Either way I cannot get it off. I advised Red Sea I didn't want to damage the glass by further attempts of chemicals,scrubbing and scraping. Thus causing scratches, hazing,etc... We'll I received my replacement tank and the rear seam by the overflow seemed questionable. Almost as if there is separation between the glass and silicone or air in between the pieces. I explained to them after seeing a recent seam/seal failure on R2R I wasn't comfortable pulling the tank out of the crate and filling it with water. Once again Red Sea has stepped up and I should have a replacement tank by Wed. this holiday week.
Here are some pics of the 12-14" section that is questionable.
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Latest update is RS was able to get me a replacement tank and an additional sump free of charge which the sump was a mistake on their part. Due to the tank swap my sandbed was disturbed causing a cyano outbreak. I treated with a single dose of Chemiclean and it turned into Dino's. So this is what I'm struggling with at the moment. No water changes or nutrient dosing, minimal feeding, raising ALK, skimming around the clock and running a UV sterilizer to help combat the Dino's. Siphoning what I can out into a filter sock. Slowly winning the battle. Overall all my corals,fish and inverts seem to be fine for the most part. I'll post up some pics once things get back on track.
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If it’s any help, I had a Dino outbreak in my Max S 650 after about 3 months being set up.
Once I realised what they were after a month or so, I did a 3 day black out, but more importantly the thing that stopped them coming back was I increased the water flow to affected areas and they never returned. That’s all I did.
The blackout period didn’t involve wrapping the tank, I just turned the LED’s off and closed the curtains and doors to the room for 3 days. When I turned the lights back on the dino’s had all gone.
It was a bit frustrating because I couldn’t ‘watch’ the tank, but well worth it.
Tommy McDonald
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I wonder why it seems like who ever gets a 650 they end up getting a new tank I'm upgrading next year but seeing everyone setting up a tank then have to change it puts me on the fence
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The Varios 6 has plenty flow. Mine is set at the 3rd setting and I run a RFG nozzle. Plenty of flow in the sump. I can crank it up another notch or two for more flow. I really don't since I have it dialed in for the 3rd setting to keep things quiet. Otherwise I have to make some adjustments.
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Update: Seems the dinos have gotten the better of the tank. I have done two 3 day black outs with a break for 10 days in between with a shorter 4 hour lighting schedule with blues only. Completely stopped water changes, slowly raised the ALK to 11.5ppm and minimized feeding. Raising the ALK seems to help the spread of the dinos throughout the day. All of which only seem to help briefly. Eventually the Dino's came back full force. I have tried Vibrant, Microbacter 7, Metro, Pods and Live Phyto, UV, hydrogen peroxide and DinoX approach. None of which have worked. It seems using DinoX has killed a 1/3rd of my SPS. My Copperband butterfly recently passed. He would eat the dinos for some odd reason and stopped taking all other prepped food. Not sure if the gas bubbles was enticing him. Fairly certain the dinos is what did him in. Lost half of my CUC.
Recently I removed all of the sand, pulled out all the rock and soaked in RODI/Hydrogen peroxide mix for 24hr. Kept running UV and Skimmer around the clock with all the flow possible to keep the dinos suspended. Started running 2 diatom filters. One in the display and one in the sump. This effort seemed to clear most things up. The dinos seem to be slowly coming back.
Now I'm stuck in between pulling everything from the tank moving over to QT for monitoring. Then draining the tank and starting over. Another option I'm contemplating is just pulling all the corals/inverts out and moving over to a QT then dosing the tank with copper and Metro. Continue to run the diatom filters with UV/Skimmer combo. The Metro method seems to impact on the dinos ability to attach to rocks/sand. As for the copper this is just a shot in the dark I'm willing to try. All of the info I've researched about treating dino's with copper seems to be effective at killing them or reduces their numbers based on the type of dinos. The type of dinos is my other problem. Not sure about this since I don't have access to a microscope.
This if becoming very frustrating but I wont let it stop me from winning the battle.
Recently I removed all of the sand, pulled out all the rock and soaked in RODI/Hydrogen peroxide mix for 24hr. Kept running UV and Skimmer around the clock with all the flow possible to keep the dinos suspended. Started running 2 diatom filters. One in the display and one in the sump. This effort seemed to clear most things up. The dinos seem to be slowly coming back.
Now I'm stuck in between pulling everything from the tank moving over to QT for monitoring. Then draining the tank and starting over. Another option I'm contemplating is just pulling all the corals/inverts out and moving over to a QT then dosing the tank with copper and Metro. Continue to run the diatom filters with UV/Skimmer combo. The Metro method seems to impact on the dinos ability to attach to rocks/sand. As for the copper this is just a shot in the dark I'm willing to try. All of the info I've researched about treating dino's with copper seems to be effective at killing them or reduces their numbers based on the type of dinos. The type of dinos is my other problem. Not sure about this since I don't have access to a microscope.
This if becoming very frustrating but I wont let it stop me from winning the battle.
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Update: My battle with dinos seem to be getting better after removing all the sand and dosing Copper and Metro. Continually running diatom filters, UV and keeping my PH up seems to be helping. I'm Dosing Metro every other day and no water changes. After slowly ramping up the dose of copper over a few days within the first 24hours (at 1/3rd of the recommend dose per water volume) the dinos appeared to be turning white/grey and dying off. No more stringy brown bubbly snot. Its been and week and no further outbreaks of dinos. Just the lingering spots on the rocks which I blow off with a baster to get sucked up in the diatom filters.
Overall I seem to be winning the battle. Hoping the Copper will do the trick. So far all of my fish seem to be healthy and normal after all of this. I plan on going a few more weeks of running copper while watching my parameters closely. If all goes well and no sign of dinos for a few weeks I may slowly add sand back or just stay bare bottom. I'm a fan of both sand and bare bottom tanks. Still on the fence about sand since the majority of my dinos seemed to be harbored in/on the sandbed.
Overall I seem to be winning the battle. Hoping the Copper will do the trick. So far all of my fish seem to be healthy and normal after all of this. I plan on going a few more weeks of running copper while watching my parameters closely. If all goes well and no sign of dinos for a few weeks I may slowly add sand back or just stay bare bottom. I'm a fan of both sand and bare bottom tanks. Still on the fence about sand since the majority of my dinos seemed to be harbored in/on the sandbed.
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If your still having trouble with dinos, what worked for me was bring up my nutrients to 5 nitrates and .1 PO4 and kept dosing them to keep them there for a month, I seem to be completely free, from the research ive gathered from the dino thread on this site, dinos typically flare up in a nutrient free environment.
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Thanks for the input. My nutrients were N03 5-10 and P04 .08-.10. I tried to increase and decrease nutrients and no change. Dinos sure are frustrating. I had tried literally everything. The only thing I have found to get rid of the dinos is remove the sand bed. Removed all corals and inverts. Started dosing copper. Dinos in the first 24-48 hours died off and turned white. My tank has been dino free for over two weeks now. I will probably run the copper for another 2-4 weeks just to be on the safe side. Then I'll run cuprisorb and carbon along with large water changes to remove the copper. Then I will wait another few weeks to watch things and check parameters daily. If all checks out I will most likely start slowly adding corals and inverts back. Taking it real slow.
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Following: I heard Red Sea has great support, glad to hear they stepped. I just got a Red Sea Reefer Peninsula 650, will be unpacking it and setting up this weekend.
