Hikari ICH-X = dead corals!!

[gfox]

Just want to give you reefers a heads up about Hikari ICH-X it kills corals.I used ICH-X in my tank because I had ich.After first dose everything was ok,then after 2 doses the next day I had dead corals in my tank.I got a hold of Hikari and told them what happen and after a few e-mails back and forth they told they would do nothing for me. had losses around 2500.00.Do not buy there products.

 

[WhoKnew]

Oh no. That is horrible. Not very good PR on their part. I would send them pictures and not give up.

 

[mike007]

To my knowledge you cannot use any meds in a reef tank that are safe for corals. You have to remove fish and quarantine in separate tank.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

Most ich medications will kill inverts

 

[gfox]

The bottle said REEF TESTED

 

[slojmn]

Super Bummer. I am so sorry for your losses.

 

[gfox]

Kinda makes me mad.We as reefers use big business products and have problems with it and they do nothing but give you lame answers.

 

[mike007]

You probably should have read instructions a little more because it states that it may be harmful to inverts.

 

[gfox]

It did not kill inverts,just corals.

 

[guidedbyechoes]

It did not kill inverts,just corals.

corals are inverts.

 

[Tahoe61]

If a medications main ingredients are water and formaldehyde then it's a safe bet you can not repeatedly add it to a reef tank without some issue. Regardless the formaldehyde is so diluted that it will not effectively treat the parasite.

Sorry for the loss of your corals, that has to be extremely frustrating.

 

[ReefMadScientist]

To my knowledge you cannot use any meds in a reef tank that are safe for corals. You have to remove fish and quarantine in separate tank.

The Kordon Ich Treatment is reef-safe...but does it work, that is another thread for another day lol.

 

[cdness]

Never treat the tank, always treat the fish only in a hospital tank. I don't care what the manufacturer says, reef safe or not...

The product description is different depending on the site you look at. Some say reef safe while other don't mention it being safe or unsafe. Some say it will not discolor silicone or corals where others say it won't discolor silicone or live rock...

How old is your bottle? Any expiration dates listed?

I am wondering if it has progressed to not reef safe and they changed the labels...

 

[jedimasterben]

If a medications main ingredients are water and formaldehyde then it's a safe bet you can not repeatedly add it to a reef tank without some issue. Regardless the formaldehyde is so diluted that it will not effectively treat the parasite.

All of this. I don't understand how someone could read 'formaldehyde, I should totally add that into my reef'.

 

[gfox]

Never treat the tank, always treat the fish only in a hospital tank. I don't care what the manufacturer says, reef safe or not...

The product description is different depending on the site you look at. Some say reef safe while other don't mention it being safe or unsafe. Some say it will not discolor silicone or corals where others say it won't discolor silicone or live rock...

How old is your bottle? Any expiration dates listed?

I am wondering if it has progressed to not reef safe and they changed the labels...

It was a new bottle expiration date of 2018

 

[gfox]

All of this. I don't understand how someone could read 'formaldehyde, I should totally add that into my reef'.

I was in a bind fish had ich and I did not have a quarantine tank set up.Made 2 bad choices 1. not quarantine the fish2.Using Hikari ICH-X.

 

[evolved]

FWIW, I have used this product before, albeit in a bare QT tank. It was effective on ich.

While the bottle I have does say "Reef Safe", it's not something I'd consider using as in-tank treatment for a reef with any stoney corals.

If a medications main ingredients are water and formaldehyde then it's a safe bet you can not repeatedly add it to a reef tank without some issue. Regardless the formaldehyde is so diluted that it will not effectively treat the parasite.

<3% formaldehyde, but the formalin they're using is 37% formaldehyde:

Contains: A proprietary formula of water and formaldehyde (< 3%).

Purpose and Benefits
Aquarium Solutions Ich-X SW is a convenient, pre-diluted, formulation of formalin (37% formaldehyde solution) which is universally recognized as an effective medication for the treatment and control of diseases in saltwater aquarium fishes caused by fungi, protozoa and certain metazoans. When used as directed, Aquarium Solutions Ich-X SW will control or prevent diseases of fishes caused by the following disease organisms: Cryptocaryon (saltwater "Ich"), Amyloodinium, the common external fungal infections, certain external bacterial infections and diseases caused by monogenea and digenea.
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Meaning it's in the neighborhood of 8% formalin.

 

[Bradsreeeftank]

Id be calling them every second of the day until they did something about it.

 

[Tahoe61]

FWIW, I have used this product before, albeit in a bare QT tank. It was effective on ich.

While the bottle I have does say "Reef Safe", it's not something I'd consider using as in-tank treatment for a reef with any stoney corals.


<3% formaldehyde, but the formalin they're using is 37% formaldehyde:

Contains: A proprietary formula of water and formaldehyde (< 3%).

Purpose and Benefits
Aquarium Solutions Ich-X SW is a convenient, pre-diluted, formulation of formalin (37% formaldehyde solution) which is universally recognized as an effective medication for the treatment and control of diseases in saltwater aquarium fishes caused by fungi, protozoa and certain metazoans. When used as directed, Aquarium Solutions Ich-X SW will control or prevent diseases of fishes caused by the following disease organisms: Cryptocaryon (saltwater "Ich"), Amyloodinium, the common external fungal infections, certain external bacterial infections and diseases caused by monogenea and digenea.
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Meaning it's in the neighborhood of 8% formalin.

Thank you for the correction, very informative post based on 1st hand experience. :becky:

Id be calling them every second of the day until they did something about it.

Clearly stated on the back:


While Aquarium Solutions Ich-X SW has been tested on a wide variety of invertebrates, it must be noted that treating diseased fishes must always be performed in a separate quarantine/treatment (Q/T) tank. In many instances where a treatable disease has occurred in an aquarium with mixed animals types (e.g. a marine "reef" tank) and where removal of the diseased fishes is not possible, it will often be best to revert to a method of control utilizing frequent and large water treatments and cleaning and replacement of filter media (where applicable). This control method will require patience and a suitable supply of prepared, properly conditioned, saltwater.

In other words it would be prudent to treat in a treatment tank. Unfortunately these things happen, sometimes it's just best to consider it a learning experience.

 

[mike007]

My personal input is I have lots of money invested in my corals and I would never introduce any type of meds into my tank. A reef tank is a ecosystem and when you introduce these chemicals to your tank it disturbs this ecosystem and problems will happen.