Holy Grail Scoly doing BAD! Help please...

[BottomCoastReefs]

ok guys so I think I have the culprit of some of the holes, not predatory, not parasitic, rather self inflicted damage. So after inspecting the scoly tonight I cant help but notice these spikes that look to be trying to poke up right under the skin. after some research I've concluded that these spikes are part of the skeletal structure as the scoly's skeleton looks to consist of vertical disks stacked in a circle with saw blade patterns on some of the disks, hence the spiky looking things trying to protrude through the skin... Where im getting at with this is, I now believe that most of the new or progressing damage is caused by the skin being receded to the point where the skeleton pokes through. This leads me to believe that the problem is that the scoly is rotting due to over feeding as "reef, coffee, & curly hair" suggested... The clues are adding up, I have thinning/receding flesh, I have holes caused possibly by either the skeleton poking through due to thinning skin or strong flow causing the skeleton to poke through the skin, I have some bleaching where as the scoly is turning a bit transparent and maybe even a bit white, and finally the damage originated near the mouth. Now that I think I may have narrowed the problem down thanks to you guys, the question is what to do if the scoly is rotting due to overfeeding? is there even a chance of survival, or is it a lost cause?

 

[Mr. E Wrasse]

ok guys so I think I have the culprit of some of the holes, not predatory, not parasitic, rather self inflicted damage. So after inspecting the scoly tonight I cant help but notice these spikes that look to be trying to poke up right under the skin. after some research I've concluded that these spikes are part of the skeletal structure as the scoly's skeleton looks to consist of vertical disks stacked in a circle with saw blade patterns on some of the disks, hence the spiky looking things trying to protrude through the skin... Where im getting at with this is, I now believe that most of the new or progressing damage is caused by the skin being receded to the point where the skeleton pokes through. This leads me to believe that the problem is that the scoly is rotting due to over feeding as "reef, coffee, & curly hair" suggested... The clues are adding up, I have thinning/receding flesh, I have holes caused possibly by either the skeleton poking through due to thinning skin or strong flow causing the skeleton to poke through the skin, I have some bleaching where as the scoly is turning a bit transparent and maybe even a bit white, and finally the damage originated near the mouth. Now that I think I may have narrowed the problem down thanks to you guys, the question is what to do if the scoly is rotting due to overfeeding? is there even a chance of survival, or is it a lost cause?

I don't think it's some foreign object or over feeding. The tissue recedes from scolys and gets tight on the skeleton if theres a lot of flow or a lot of light on it and from the picture it looks like you have yours near the top of your tank and in an open area. I learned the hard way before I did much research when I first started keeping scolies and had the same problem as you so I moved it up thinking my lighting was insufficient. Wrong, it burned a hole in the center and I ended up losing one. Youd be amazed how little light they need along with flow. When I see them scuba diving, they are always deep like 60+ ft and under ledges or in little caves with low light

 

[Mr. E Wrasse]

See I've had this guy for quite some time now and have him in very low light under a rock and he's fatter than ever

 

[typicaltony]

ouch poor thing.

 

[BottomCoastReefs]

I don't think it's some foreign object or over feeding. The tissue recedes from scolys and gets tight on the skeleton if theres a lot of flow or a lot of light on it and from the picture it looks like you have yours near the top of your tank and in an open area. I learned the hard way before I did much research when I first started keeping scolies and had the same problem as you so I moved it up thinking my lighting was insufficient. Wrong, it burned a hole in the center and I ended up losing one. Youd be amazed how little light they need along with flow. When I see them scuba diving, they are always deep like 60+ ft and under ledges or in little caves with low light

good point... yeah after much thinking, I think that im just dealing with a very ****** off scoly, not rotting or foreign objects as this damage is a slow progression over a months time. it would make since though since half my corals are sps and I try to keep those happy with high light/flow, its just not the environment for my scoly so im going to tuck him in somewhere in a cave, thanks for your input...

 

[Squishie89]

I am sorry I did not think of this sooner, but if/when you feed him and his mouth opens up, slowly add some of this in there- Live Foods for Feeding Aquarium Fish, Inverts & Corals: PhycoPure Zooxanthellae, Assorted species I have been using it on a plate that got stung and I think it may be helping. I cannot guarantee it will help, but it is worth a shot.

 

[BottomCoastReefs]

I am sorry I did not think of this sooner, but if/when you feed him and his mouth opens up, slowly add some of this in there- Live Foods for Feeding Aquarium Fish, Inverts & Corals: PhycoPure Zooxanthellae, Assorted species I have been using it on a plate that got stung and I think it may be helping. I cannot guarantee it will help, but it is worth a shot.

thanks, maybe ill try it down the line in a week or so...

 

[BottomCoastReefs]

Ok guys so here is the Week-ish update, tomorrow will make a week since i started taking action, but i know i wont have a chance to post then so here i am now...

Health status: wounds seem to be fleshy and skin seems to be thickening out over them (i say this in a good way), the holes DON'T seem like loose thin flimsy skin anymore...
Location status: tucked away under a cliff AWAY from strong flow and lighting.
Feeding status: target feeding Brightwell Aquatics Restor (I've done 2 rounds so far...), which is amino acids beneficial for coral flesh... I also plan on feeding Fauna Marin LPS pellet in a week or so.
Spirit status: Hopeful
Notes: i might be feeling a placebo affect but i swear the day after using Brightwell's Restor i seen an increase in color on the scoly!

any input you guys have please keep em' coming...

 

[_Alex_]

I suggest only 2-3 pellets max for the first several feedings. My buddy gave his scoly like 20-30 and it went south fast. I save d that scoly to by low flow and low light. The scoly I pictured earlier I rarely direct feed it. I have seen it eat snails and spit the sells out lol. They are a very interesting coral. But do not need a lot of light. But if wanted starting in the shade and slowly moving out into the light over several weeks that can so great as well. It's just a matter of letting the coral adjust.


-Alex-

 

[BottomCoastReefs]

I suggest only 2-3 pellets max for the first several feedings. My buddy gave his scoly like 20-30 and it went south fast. I save d that scoly to by low flow and low light. The scoly I pictured earlier I rarely direct feed it. I have seen it eat snails and spit the sells out lol. They are a very interesting coral. But do not need a lot of light. But if wanted starting in the shade and slowly moving out into the light over several weeks that can so great as well. It's just a matter of letting the coral adjust.


-Alex-

Thanks for the heads up but ive done some research on the pellets and i know only a few pellets are required per feeding, your friend is INSANE lol at that rate it wouldnt be very economical either, in my area a small container of those pellets go for like $30 :wacko:.... and yes, im slowly starting to realize that i have my tank set up suited to my sps which are extreme conditions for most coral in regards to lighting and flow even nutrient levels. so i think that the scoly is just letting me know that he is extremely ******, i believe it will turn around now that i have it in a spot more suitable to its liking ...as with anything we all just want to be in a place that makes us happy!

 

[ELChingonsReef]

I'm having the same problem..but they were I lower light area of the tank..they have been there for two weeks..im giving them reef roids they don't seem to like anything I try to do..lol I'm going to send pictures..do these scollys look bleached or dying from over feeding? The one on the right was doing fine for months then I purchased the other two recently the one on the left receded in one day. The one in the middle took 4 days the one on the right has been doing good for months. I just sent off an ICP test.

 

[TCoach]

I'm having the same problem..but they were I lower light area of the tank..they have been there for two weeks..im giving them reef roids they don't seem to like anything I try to do..lol I'm going to send pictures..do these scollys look bleached or dying from over feeding? The one on the right was doing fine for months then I purchased the other two recently the one on the left receded in one day. The one in the middle took 4 days the one on the right has been doing good for months. I just sent off an ICP test.

Please don't revive old threads, this one is ~8 years old. Please start a new thread for your issue. Thanks!