Hospital tank asap

[Treeb117]

Ich. DT has fish and inverts (cuc). No coral. Ich on yellow tang. Need help with quickest way to set up hospital tank. Does it need a filter? Can I use water from dt? I know no substrate/rock. Just pvc. Thanks for help!!

 

[reeplay87]

I just use an air stone and sponge w/ a bottle of Turbo Start in a little 5 gal. Water quality is what you largely have to watch though. Others are likely more qualified to advise however as I have only recently started a QT process. I had previously just always ordered supposed pre-QT fish, but didn't want to risk in the new display. Trying the H2O2 TTM from Humblefish, as I don't even think I can screw that up.

I do know that you want nothing from your infected tank however.

 

[vessxpress1]

Ich. DT has fish and inverts (cuc). No coral. Ich on yellow tang. Need help with quickest way to set up hospital tank. Does it need a filter? Can I use water from dt? I know no substrate/rock. Just pvc. Thanks for help!!

Sounds like you've got it figured out. I have a 10 gallon running in my kitchen right now. Just has a cheap penguin filter with a biowheel running with no carbon atm and a 50 watt heater and a bubble bar. Glass top to hold the heat in and a thermometer. I'm cycling water but lucklily you have display water to work with.

Your biggest issue is do you have the meds needed and the test kits to make sure you're at the proper level? Not enough copper won't kill the ich and too much will kill the fish. You'll have to remove all fish from the display for a considerable amount of time to eradicate the ich in the display now or you'll just cure the fish and put it back into a tank with ich.

 

[mikeintoronto]

Slow up a sec. Is the fish suffering or did you just see a spot or two?
Just do TTM for now. In the meantime set up an observation tank and it’ll cycle while you’re doing your TTM. If you rush the hospital tank you’ll end up killing the fish with ammonia or bacterial infections from dirty water.
Quarantine works for tanks that have been prepared ahead of time.
I do hybrid TTM and copper.

 

[W1ngz]

Agree with @mikeintoronto, how urgent is it? If it's not bad, you have a better chance getting them through with a cycled tank. What else is in the tank? You'll need at least a 20 long for an adult yellow tang or it's gonna die of stress in such a cramped space as a 5 or 10 gal for an entire fallow period.

All the fish need to come out for 76 days to deal with ich properly.

 

[Treeb117]

Inverts. Cuc, snails, conch, and hermits. Makes it tough to treat dt.

 

[mikeintoronto]

Inverts. Cuc, snails, conch, and hermits. Makes it tough to treat dt.

Which is why you’ll leave the tank fallow for 76 days. It’s imperative your observation tank - the one the fish will live in for the next couple months - is cycled and ready to house the fish. The ich on the inverts will hatch an die in that period as long as you don’t add more stuff or contaminate.

 

[Treeb117]

Slow up a sec. Is the fish suffering or did you just see a spot or two?
Just do TTM for now. In the meantime set up an observation tank and it’ll cycle while you’re doing your TTM. If you rush the hospital tank you’ll end up killing the fish with ammonia or bacterial infections from dirty water.
Quarantine works for tanks that have been prepared ahead of time.
I do hybrid TTM and copper.

What is TTM? And in the tank is also cuc...snails, hermits, conch. Can’t really treat the tank with copper or risk losing inverts.

Which is why you’ll leave the tank fallow for 76 days. It’s imperative your observation tank - the one the fish will live in for the next couple months - is cycled and ready to house the fish. The ich on the inverts will hatch an die in that period as long as you don’t add more stuff or contaminate.

thank you. Sorry for all the questions...
Is there a way to cycle quickly? Maybe with dt water or not a good idea?

 

[mikeintoronto]

What is TTM? And in the tank is also cuc...snails, hermits, conch. Can’t really treat the tank with copper or risk losing inverts.

thank you. Sorry for all the questions...
Is there a way to cycle quickly? Maybe with dt water or not a good idea?

Questions are fine. Ask away.

TTM is tank transfer method. Google that. It’s basically moving the fish every 3 days into a new tank/container with clean air stone and heater and new water. You’re outrunning the parasite before it has a chance to hatch and reinfect. It’s done for about 2 weeks. It beats ich but you need to be religious with your cleaning between treatments. No cycle required for that.
You’re not treating the display at all. You’re removing the fish and treating it and all other fish in there. Once they are treated you will observe them and then hold them in quarantine until 76 days pass. This is 99% long enough for all cysts to hatch and free swimming parasites to die off with no host in the tank to reinfect. The holding QT can be quickly cycled with the bottled bacteria. You’re really just cycling the filter so you can even do this in a bucket then move the cycled filter into your holding tank.

If you’re not going to go fallow there’s no point in treating the fish. Just leave it and see what happens. Without fallow it’ll just get reinfected.