How’s does Velvet look after FW dip?

[Frtdrmrose7]

Does velvet drop off like flukes in a FW dip? I did a FW dip for a wrasse breathing heavy and resting a lot. I found what looks like powdered sugar left over. I don’t think it’s flukes the wrasse has been through Prazi and fenbendazole.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

@HotRocks @4FordFamily

 

[4FordFamily]

Does velvet drop off like flukes in a FW dip? I did a FW dip for a wrasse breathing heavy and resting a lot. I found what looks like powdered sugar left over. I don’t think it’s flukes the wrasse has been through Prazi and fenbendazole.

No, it does not. The spots you see on velvet are actually mucous covering the insertion points. The white spots are not actual parasites. With flukes, they are both. I can't make out what's in the photo, unfortunately.

 

[HotRocks]

Velvet can't be seen, too microscopic. So it's either flukes, something in the bucket, or just some dead scales etc.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Velvet can't be seen, too microscopic. So it's either flukes, something in the bucket, or just some dead scales etc.

Ok, so here is what I have. I treated all three wrasses yesterday for Prazi resistant flukes with fenbendazole and all 3 did extremely well. I put them into a sterile tank last night and all 3 looked good and fed well this morning. As of lunch time the yellow was back to flashing and the Ruby Head was resting in a pipe breathing heavy and hard. From the back it almost looked like his gills were inflamed. I’m pretty sure the Ruby Head won’t survive but I have dosed copper again thinking my original 14 days failed somehow. I am truly at a loss right now. There aren’t any obvious spots, etc on the fish and the other two wrasse are swimming and breathing fine.

 

[ckalupa]

Dang! Been following you in the other thread and you have really been doing everything. How are they today? The one you dipped doing better than the others? Did you have any fembenzadole that did not properly dissolve?

I have often wondered where the fluke bodies go when doing fembenzadole? Do they pop? Do they drop off like a FW dip? Do they remain in the gills but dead?

Might a time in hypo be in order next in case those dots are something else? I normally see debris in the tank when doing a fresh water dip but you have more of it in there. But flukes are not obvious anymore!

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Dang! Been following you in the other thread and you have really been doing everything. How are they today? The one you dipped doing better than the others? Did you have any fembenzadole that did not properly dissolve?

I have often wondered where the fluke bodies go when doing fembenzadole? Do they pop? Do they drop off like a FW dip? Do they remain in the gills but dead?

Might a time in hypo be in order next in case those dots are something else? I normally see debris in the tank when doing a fresh water dip but you have more of it in there. But flukes are not obvious anymore!

The Ruby Head was gone within 12 hours, I don’t think it was flukes. I suspect one of them is carrying velvet. The Ruby Head (the one I dipped) was dead within 12 hours of symptom onset. I have copper back at therapeutic levels, the yellow and timor are still alive and swimming fine except for flashing. I don’t see how enough flukes could get through two rounds of Prazi and one of fenbendazole to be fatal in 12 hours. The first 12 hours after the fenbendazole the Ruby looked great and it was the following day he started becoming symptomatic. I’m hoping the remaining two survive and this round of copper does the trick

 

[ckalupa]

Good luck. Keep us posted. We are all learning from your experience. Hoping for a good outcome going forward.

 

[dwest]

The Ruby Head was gone within 12 hours, I don’t think it was flukes. I suspect one of them is carrying velvet. The Ruby Head (the one I dipped) was dead within 12 hours of symptom onset. I have copper back at therapeutic levels, the yellow and timor are still alive and swimming fine except for flashing. I don’t see how enough flukes could get through two rounds of Prazi and one of fenbendazole to be fatal in 12 hours. The first 12 hours after the fenbendazole the Ruby looked great and it was the following day he started becoming symptomatic. I’m hoping the remaining two survive and this round of copper does the trick

Sorry about your fish.

I agree with everything you said. To me, the potential transfer of ich or velvet from the copper tank to the second sterile tank seems reasonably high. I always think about that during the transfer. The good news is that you are catching problems before the fish reach the display.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Sorry about your fish.

I agree with everything you said. To me, the potential transfer of ich or velvet from the copper tank to the second sterile tank seems reasonably high. I always think about that during the transfer. The good news is that you are catching problems before the fish reach the display.

With the ability to carry a parasite and not show it like these wrasses have tell me they won’t be in the DT for quite a while after treatment. I’m going to be 500% sure they are parasite free before going in the DT

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Sorry about your fish.

I agree with everything you said. To me, the potential transfer of ich or velvet from the copper tank to the second sterile tank seems reasonably high. I always think about that during the transfer. The good news is that you are catching problems before the fish reach the display.

Copper is now at 1.82 ppm and I haven’t seen any flashing so maybe there’s a light at the end of the tunnel.