How 2 start TRITON?

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Ok so I've read most of your triton posts and I just wondering if you can break it down here....

How do I start and what do I need to be successful.

I have a tank which is basically set up in a fashion that would support triton method. Refugium sump skimmer. Room for media bags blah blah blah.

Where do I start. What would be start up cost.

I was thinking jaebo 4 head doser. And...

Give me the 411 on everything I need to purchase and the best ways to do this.

My triton method start date will be 1st of august so I have time but I'm very intrested.
 
Ok so I've read most of your triton posts and I just wondering if you can break it down here....

How do I start and what do I need to be successful.

I have a tank which is basically set up in a fashion that would support triton method. Refugium sump skimmer. Room for media bags blah blah blah.

Where do I start. What would be start up cost.

I was thinking jaebo 4 head doser. And...

Give me the 411 on everything I need to purchase and the best ways to do this.

My triton method start date will be 1st of august so I have time but I'm very intrested.

LOL- A lot of ground to cover...! This will be a very, very over-simplified response, because so much has been covered elsewhere...

First off, I'd visit the Triton US forum here on R2R, which is where you'll find a lot of Triton-specific content and comments/help/ideas/queries from other Triton users! There is also the official Triton US page on Facebook, and a wonderful Triton UK users group on Facebook as well.

To "start" utilizing the Triton "method", you'd be best to have an assessment of your tank parameters as they stand now. I'd start with a Triton Professional Water Analysis test ( $49.). This will give you a good baseline assessment of what, if anything is out whack with Triton's NSW-derived matrix of trace element ranges. Only when you know if there is something that needs to be corrected should you attempt to correct it! That's the backbone of Triton's method. You will receive a detailed report of your water analysis, and specific recommendations on how to deal with any excesses or deficiencies of trace elements based on Triton's matrix. You may find that you need to do very little, or that perhaps you have higher than NSW limits on some things, in which case it doesn't take much to get where you want to go.

If you elect to follow Triton's methodology of maintaining tight control of variables, you'd probably want to consider utilizing the Triton "Base Elementz" balanced ionic solutions daily. This is essentially a 4-part additive set consisting of an alkalinity component, a calcium component, and a major and minor trace element component. Part 1 is in granular form while parts 2, 3A and 3B are liquids each contained in 1 liter bottles. Mix part 2, 3A and 3B with 9 liters of RO/DI water each and always keep them seperate. Then mix part 1 into its own solution of RO/DI water to match the volume of the other 3 solutions. The amount of RO water needed to match the other 3 containers is approx 9.66 liters. (although part 3a and part 3B can be combined into a single 8 liters of RO/DI water to create a combined 10 liters of solution, the high concentration of elements present in the solution can possibly crystalize within the dosing tubes of some dosing equipment making for increased hardware maintenance. For this reason only, it is recommended to keep all four parts seperate. If dosing them seperate you should end up with 4x 10liter stock solutions. What is more important than diluting to create exactly 10 liters, is that all four parts are of the same dilution. Since you will be dialing the dosing ml's pr day to achieve a stable daily alkalinity of 8 dkh, it is more important that all solutions are of the same volume.

Prior to starting with the Base Elementz, the carbonate hardness (alkalinity) of your aquarium should be measured and, if necessary, slowly adjusted to reach 8 DKH . As a starting dose, Triton recommends a dose of 10 ml of each of the four parts of Elementz solutions per 100 l of tank capacity every day. This is optimized by use of an automatic doser with 4 seperate channels. Be sure to add the elements individually and at different places in the tank, in order to prevent the agents from reacting with one another. Continue testing for carbonate hardness on a daily basis. If it increases, reduce the quantity of each Elementz solution. If the hardness decreases, slowly increase the quantity added. Measure carbonate hardness every day until it remains constant; once this has occurred, you have arrived at your individual dosage of Elementz.

So...you would need a four channel dose, or 4 single channel doses to really dial things in.

The management of your trace element levels is more easily accomplished with continued tests during the first couple of months- so you'd probably want to start with a three test pack..One for "before", one to see the results of your initial "Elementz" dose, and the last to monitor how things have settled in. Thereafter, much less frequent testing is okay...Although in a perfect world, I'd do once a month.
So, so much more in terms of the nuances and schuss, but the actual "application" of the "method" is really not difficult. It seems a bit intimidating at first, but it's actually pretty straightforward: You make changes based on the needs of your aquarium, and only adjust or supplement as testing dictates. No guessing...

For more, much more- do check out any of the resources mentioned above. A lot of great information out there!

Thanks!

Scott
 
So. For all intensive purposes the things I should have would be....

A 3 pack of tests
Base elements
Triton salt?
Triton gfo and carbon?
Do they recommend and alk tester?
 
Btw thanks for the short and sweet on the topic. I get lost when reading 3 page essay ' s
 
So. For all intensive purposes the things I should have would be....

A 3 pack of tests
Base elements
Triton salt?
Triton gfo and carbon?
Do they recommend and alk tester?

Not exactly...

The 3 pack of tests is good...

Base Elementz is required

You can use any brand of carbon...Triton offers a phosphate remover, but you can use 2 Little Fishes PhosBan, or Phos Guard, etc... Triton likes the idea of rotating between an aluminum based phosphate remover and an iron based one.

You'd only use their salt when correcting thing like trace element excesses or other problems. It only has the "macros" and is not designed for regular use at all...

I'd use a good quality alkalinity test kit...whichever one you prefer.

Hope this helps!

Scott
 
Ok that makes sense.

What do we use for salt for keeping salinity up? Or is that part of the elements?

So boom. Tests and elements. And that's it? Anything else that's specialized for triton method I would wanna make sure I have around?
 
Let me recommend:

1) Tests
2) Base Elementz and an auto doser (I highly recommend Pac Sun Kore 5th)
3) Triton salt if needed and you have a small tank. If a medium/large tank, use Red Sea or Tropic Marin salts. Note this assumes only if your forgoing water changes (as you should).
4) Im using BRS ROX and Hi Cap GFO alternated with PhosGuard.
5) Hanna Alk Tester

Oh and importantly... have a BIG FUGE and a good skimmer.
 
Ok that makes sense.

What do we use for salt for keeping salinity up? Or is that part of the elements?

So boom. Tests and elements. And that's it? Anything else that's specialized for triton method I would wanna make sure I have around?

Well, you'd maintain specific gravity by occasionally removing some saltwater equivalent roughly to how many mL your's dosing of "Elementz", and replacing with fresh RO water (Fresh..)...So a small water exchange to keep up SG...

Really, special things to have around other than a way to accurately administer "Elementz"- not really...Just fundamental reef management skills..There is no real mystery to Triton, other than understanding what's going on in your reef...
 
Let me recommend:

1) Tests
2) Base Elementz and an auto doser (I highly recommend Pac Sun Kore 5th)
3) Triton salt if needed and you have a small tank. If a medium/large tank, use Red Sea or Tropic Marin salts. Note this assumes only if your forgoing water changes (as you should).
4) Im using BRS ROX and Hi Cap GFO alternated with PhosGuard.
5) Hanna Alk Tester

Oh and importantly... have a BIG FUGE and a good skimmer.

Yup! Perfectly summed up...really not earth shattering here...A simple, time-honored approach to reef keeping, enhanced with the power of accurate information. That's it. Tropic Marin Pro is the favored salt mix that a lot of Triton fans use...

-Scott
 
So this is great. I was kinda thinking ugh this is gonna be expensive. But now I'm thinking Whoopity do dah.

240 bucks gets me 3 tests and the elements.

So last question. How long is the elements gonna last before I'm buying more.

What I'm trying to get at here is what is a normal guy gonna spend monthly on running a triton method tank. 100g sps tank.

In my head I'm adding up all the money I spend on all my water and salt and tests and supplements and Yada Yada monthly that I would be done using.

I mean guess at it 100 bucks? 150?

I'm sold already and will be buying as soon as I burn through all the salt and garbage I have laying around.
 
Let me recommend:

1) Tests
2) Base Elementz and an auto doser (I highly recommend Pac Sun Kore 5th)
3) Triton salt if needed and you have a small tank. If a medium/large tank, use Red Sea or Tropic Marin salts. Note this assumes only if your forgoing water changes (as you should).
4) Im using BRS ROX and Hi Cap GFO alternated with PhosGuard.
5) Hanna Alk Tester

Oh and importantly... have a BIG FUGE and a good skimmer.


Thanks for the input. My tank and I can really manage this system alot better than the way I'm doing things right now. My work schedule is killing me! Lol.
 
Thanks for the input. My tank and I can really manage this system alot better than the way I'm doing things right now. My work schedule is killing me! Lol.

I think that, once people get a handle on the Triton theories, they'll find it's probably one of the easiest ways to manage a reef...Just takes a bit of understanding, but really not that complex from an operational standpoint..
 
So this is great. I was kinda thinking ugh this is gonna be expensive. But now I'm thinking Whoopity do dah.

240 bucks gets me 3 tests and the elements.

So last question. How long is the elements gonna last before I'm buying more.

What I'm trying to get at here is what is a normal guy gonna spend monthly on running a triton method tank. 100g sps tank.

In my head I'm adding up all the money I spend on all my water and salt and tests and supplements and Yada Yada monthly that I would be done using.

I mean guess at it 100 bucks? 150?

I'm sold already and will be buying as soon as I burn through all the salt and garbage I have laying around.

My tank is relatively new, lots of SPS frags but no colonies, with a couple clams and misc stuff. 150g total water volume. I'm using 80-90ml per day - so roughly 2 months on a set of Base Elementz.
 
Alright so 1 test and half a elements set a month roughly 80 bucks a month. Hmm. This eliminate ' s a ton of my other expenses.
 
And with that being said at some point I can stop testing monthly and make the process cheaper.
 
And with that being said at some point I can stop testing monthly and make the process cheaper.

You could definitely test less often once it's dialed in, but the idea is to have consistent data that you can use to spot trends in consumption of trace elements, etc. You're not chasing specific target numbers, but you are trying to keep things stable within a range. Monthly testing will definitely help do that...

-Scott
 
What about dosing aminos, etc.? Is it just assumed this is NOT a ULNS, so lots of fish and heavy feeding, or ???

Triton advises a generous fish population, kept well fed. The dissolved organics from their waste products will help feed the corals...Can you dose amino/ Sure, but I'd place more emphasis on feeding the fishes.


-Scott
 

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