How do people afford this hobby!!!

Yeah I agree with this. Out of sight out of mind. The whole point of a saltwater tank is to LOOK at it. Yesterday my wife said "you've been looking at that tank all day!" I replied back, "That's what it's FOR!" o_O;Facepalm
Omg! My wife said the same the the other day lol....I told her I didn't set it up to not look at it
 
Buy second if u can! Got me a 350 litre sumped tank, leds full equipment soft corals fish etc for £540 ! If your willing to move a set up expect to save around 2k.
 
I learned my lesson with cutting corners and bought some decent equipment for my current tank (25 Lagoon). It took me 3 years to collect everything I needed, but it was worth it.

What always shocks me is how quickly some of the high end corals are sold. $600-800 corals bought up in a snap!
 
I started off with new, IM30L and and equipment for $2000 3 1/2 years ago.

My other passion is cars.

So, I made a corporate move to Hilton Head and really wanted to upgrade to a RSR 525.

So, I sold this to Pay off a credit card and fund my preferred passion.

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For me, it was a choice. Do I miss it? Yes!

Would I do it again? YES!
 
I started off with new, IM30L and and equipment for $2000 3 1/2 years ago.

My other passion is cars.

So, I made a corporate move to Hilton Head and really wanted to upgrade to a RSR 525.

So, I sold this to Pay off a credit card and fund my preferred passion.

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For me, it was a choice. Do I miss it? Yes!

Would I do it again? YES!
Oooh how fun was that to drive?

Save up and get an old one from the '60's or '70's, then take me for a ride hehe:p
 
So my 20g nano I'm into just about 600 just equipment. With everything livestock included and I'm around 1k.

I started under that for my 20...now I've gone and spent more than that in just the lights :/
Probably close to $1k for my 20 long now, including livestock...only thing I wish I would have done different since getting back in after over 10 years...should have bought a bigger tank!
 
I started under that for my 20...now I've gone and spent more than that in just the lights :/
Probably close to $1k for my 20 long now, including livestock...only thing I wish I would have done different since getting back in after over 10 years...should have bought a bigger tank!
I think that all the time lol wish I had a bigger one [emoji3]
 
Oooh how fun was that to drive?

Save up and get an old one from the '60's or '70's, then take me for a ride hehe[emoji14]

I have had the pleasure of owning and driving the wheels off of the following:
66 GTO, 389, 6 pack, 4 sp
69 Chevelle SS396. 4 sp
87 TA
94 LT1 corvette coupe
2001 C5, 6 sp

Not sure what’s next, but there will be one when the time is right![emoji41]

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this is a you gotta be made of money kind of hobby.
to make things worse, when you quit, unless you got real lucky, you'll get pennies for what you spent. to make it even worse, this can also become one of the most stressful hobbies when you start dealing with issues like gha, aiptasia, etc. and you have to worry about power outage, vacation sitter, etc.
there are many hobbies that don't cost much and no stress. reading, crossword puzzle, play chess, etc.

Chess? No stress? You must play a different kind of chess than I do.

I also play darts, pool... kinda like games I can play with a drink in one hand. Those are games, I wouldn't consider them hobbies. I'm a reader, I read just about anything... but it's a pastime, unless it's research.

There are cheap hobbies. Runners might spend a hundred bucks on shoes, and call it good. Knitting... fifty bucks could probably get you a good start. Painting, wood carving, and many more. Still, if you want to take it to extreme... Knitting might as well be weaving. What's a 6' loom cost? Wood carving? What if you were to move to marble for your statuary... or bronze.

I've got a friend, owns his own home, drives a corvette, and has 4 marine aquariums, ranging from 180 to 30 gallons, two of them very nice looking reefs. Makes what I would consider a fairly average, or even below average income. How does he do it? Lives cheap, pays attention to what he's spending money on, seeks out bargains, doesn't mind work... no automation. In short, he's intelligent about it. He's certainly not made of money, and very much enjoys this hobby.

I stand by my sentiment. You can invest as much as you want in any hobby. This one might have higher entry costs than some, but lower than others.
 
I’m sure you miss your c5 vette, what year 2002?

It was an ‘01. I got it as a second owner in ‘14 with 12,800 miles on it. Still on original tires. Fully optioned.

I do miss it! I miss them all!
 
Chess? No stress? You must play a different kind of chess than I do.

I also play darts, pool... kinda like games I can play with a drink in one hand. Those are games, I wouldn't consider them hobbies. I'm a reader, I read just about anything... but it's a pastime, unless it's research.

There are cheap hobbies. Runners might spend a hundred bucks on shoes, and call it good. Knitting... fifty bucks could probably get you a good start. Painting, wood carving, and many more. Still, if you want to take it to extreme... Knitting might as well be weaving. What's a 6' loom cost? Wood carving? What if you were to move to marble for your statuary... or bronze.

I've got a friend, owns his own home, drives a corvette, and has 4 marine aquariums, ranging from 180 to 30 gallons, two of them very nice looking reefs. Makes what I would consider a fairly average, or even below average income. How does he do it? Lives cheap, pays attention to what he's spending money on, seeks out bargains, doesn't mind work... no automation. In short, he's intelligent about it. He's certainly not made of money, and very much enjoys this hobby.

I stand by my sentiment. You can invest as much as you want in any hobby. This one might have higher entry costs than some, but lower than others.

I know what you are trying to say. regardless, it is not a hobby that costs nothing. even if for like someone who gets everything for free, you still got to pay higher electricity and water bill, unless you are leeching off of someone's electric and water lines.

they are all pasttimes, as they are not necessities. I was simply suggesting there are pasttimes that will cost next to nothing, if not free since cost is obviously a major factor to the OP. In hindsight, I probably would not have gone into reefing. So yes, OP should opt to skip reefing as there are plenty of less costly alternatives.
 
I just setup my 26g AIO after being out for quite a few years. I purchased everything brand new and went with quality equipment (MP10, AI Prime, etc) and am at around $1400. The tank is still cycling so that doesn't include any livestock, and I'm also using dry rock. That price includes everything though from the tank, to my test kits, salt, glass scraper, heaters, etc. The only thing I haven't purchased yet is an RODI system as I'm still deciding on which one I want. Here's a complete breakdown for you if you're interested:

Tank/Stand - $396
AI Prime HD - $200
Prime Mount - $30
Fritze Bacteria - $12
20lbs Sand - $28
200g Reef Crystals Salt - $64
Refractometer - $20
Small pump for water changes - $10
Siphon hose - $8
Heater for new water before water changes - $13
IM Spinstream - $23
API Master Test Kit - $25
Media Bags - $10
ROX 0.8 Carbon - $19
Purigen - $14
Digital Thermometer - $7
Heater - $40
ATO - $90
Glass Cleaner - $25
Coral Epoxy - $13
Leveling Mat - $10
CA Glue - $6
Bio-Spira Bacteria - $11
Dr. Tim's Ammonia - $4
20lbs Reef Saver Rock - $54
VorTech MP10wQD - $288
DJ Power Strip - $30

=$1450
 
Well I sold it all and actually did quite well on all parts and livestock but now I’m starting at zero.

Well...that is one way to save money starting out..buying from people who get out of the hobby. I was probably at 3 or 4 teardown parties in the early 2000's where nice corals were going out the door at frag prices. Sometimes you get weed corals for free! I even bought a 65 gallon RR with canopy and stand for under $200 dollars.

I still have a lot of equipment that I've accumulated over the years. I still use the same ASM skimmer I bought in the early 2000's. I have a cheap tub, mag pump and an old lifereef float switch for an ATO. I currently drip kalk out of a jug. I have parts for a DIY kalk reactor, but haven't built it yet.

I do want to build a big fancy salt mixing station like I see in all the pictures....they don't give those nice plastic tubs away though.
 
I just got back in after 5 years, Red Sea Reefer 250 about 65 gals SPS, I went high end equipment Radion lighting , Vortechs , Apex controlled but I am at between $5K-$6K, yes it's expensive but if I played golf , fished or hunted it would be about the same. Once the initial purchase the upkeep is not bad , SPS can get expensive but I spread out.

I think you're about spot on. 6K without livestock.
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%

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